ChiefsPlanet Let's talk about fair and consistent moderation - Page 3

**Fire Me Boy!** · 06-18-2015, 09:37 AM

I'd like to have an open and honest conversation. I hope you all know me well enough to know I don't mean any ill will. But I know this will likely not go over well.

We need documentation of offenses and punishments. It seems all too often that fairness and rationality is thrown out the window in favor of emotion. Without documenting offenses and punishment, there is no guideline for how to dole out action. It begs for mods to take whatever action they feel at the time, which could range from nothing to full bans. Further, it opens the door wide for mods to rationalize action or non-action. This can be a living document that grows or shrinks with time.

We have too many instances of punishment being made up on the spot. This is not OK. There is no fair and consistent moderation on this board.

The unfair treatment in this place is ridiculous. Deberg gets thumped for being annoying. Inmem gets put on Miserable User for being annoying. Dozens of other users remain untouched. Hootie gets chance after chance after chance. Joey: chance after chance after chance. Inmem: ****ed without warning. Deberg loses thread starting privileges without warning because other posters are bitching.

If we remove users that are annoying, many users would be gone. If we ban people because they post a lot, I can think of dozens of users that would have been gone years ago. Trolls? Please. Unpopular opinions? GTFO.

DC is a freakin' cesspool of rudeness, meanness, and bigotry, and not a single thing happens to anyone in there. Ever. No action taken. We all know that if DC didn't exist, all of that shit would spill into the main forum. It's just an example because it does occasionally spill over here.

Mods occasionally troll certain users (name changes, rep changes, etc.). I’m not trying to take the fun away; as long as it’s temporary, no big deal. It shouldn’t be long-term. Frazod, while questionably batchit crazy, is a good example of this.

I know of one mod who’s given up on trying to do any discipline due to other mods complaining, or members threatening to revolt. Moderation seems based on whichever mod gets annoyed first. This is not a good way to moderate a board.

Do we need some fresh blood? Maybe some mods that cannot control themselves need to fall on the sword and step down. Maybe a mod election would be good.

tl;dr: Moderation here is BS. Let’s find a way to make it right.

KCUnited · 06-18-2015, 10:19 AM

I'll admit that sometimes I go overboard with candy. I know it's not the healthiest, is bad for my teeth and I try to limit myself to just one piece a day, but **** me if it's not a struggle. Plain and simple, I love chewy, sour candy.

Thanks for the reminder and discussion though. I'll start making a concerted effort to cut back.

**srvy** · 06-18-2015, 10:20 AM

Who banned Simply Red? Can't ban those Dirty South boys they will go all witch doctor on ya. CP has has some serious bad mojo every since. Or maybe its been a shitty rainy spring and Chiefs offseason.

**dirk digler** · 06-18-2015, 10:21 AM

What brought this on?

Pablo · 06-18-2015, 10:22 AM

Missing your InMen in the food thread, no doubt?

threebag · 06-18-2015, 10:26 AM

void sweet daddy and claynus memberships and extend Deberg, Inmen, and Thig...VIP

make it rain

**Predarat** · 06-18-2015, 10:26 AM

What we need to do is tap into the Zfile and run an audit trail on all moderating actions of all moderators. That would be interesting stuff.

**Bob Dole** · 06-18-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Predarat

What we need to do is tap into the Zfile and run an audit trail on all moderating actions of all moderators. That would be interesting stuff.

It is far easier than that.

**srvy** · 06-18-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

I'll admit that sometimes I go overboard with candy. I know it's not the healthiest, is bad for my teeth and I try to limit myself to just one piece a day, but **** me if it's not a struggle. Plain and simple, I love chewy, sour candy.

Thanks for the reminder and discussion though. I'll start making a concerted effort to cut back.

Try black licorice or Necco wafers.

**loochy** · 06-18-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

It is far easier than that.

Oh I'm glad you chimed in. I was just about to suggest that the OP PM you regarding this topic.

Mr. Laz · 06-18-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

The problem is a complete lack of integrity in how this place is modded. There is no consistency whatsoever. It's a problem.

Isn't poor moderation the reason many left the old Star board?

I don't know that we've ever agreed about anything until now.

**Predarat** · 06-18-2015, 10:36 AM

We need to elect a MasterMod, who Mods the Mods.

**notorious** · 06-18-2015, 10:52 AM

CP is the best forum on the net.

Don't try to happier than happy.

Hammock Parties · 06-18-2015, 10:53 AM

Hammock Parties · 06-18-2015, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy

Who banned Simply Red?

He wasn't banned. He's taking a break because people seem shitty.

**srvy** · 06-18-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

He wasn't banned. He's taking a break because people seem shitty.

Can we ban him for this?

06-18-2015, 09:37 AM
Fire Me Boy! Cast Iron Jedi Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $9999900 VARSITY	Let's talk about fair and consistent moderation I'd like to have an open and honest conversation. I hope you all know me well enough to know I don't mean any ill will. But I know this will likely not go over well. We need documentation of offenses and punishments. It seems all too often that fairness and rationality is thrown out the window in favor of emotion. Without documenting offenses and punishment, there is no guideline for how to dole out action. It begs for mods to take whatever action they feel at the time, which could range from nothing to full bans. Further, it opens the door wide for mods to rationalize action or non-action. This can be a living document that grows or shrinks with time. We have too many instances of punishment being made up on the spot. This is not OK. There is no fair and consistent moderation on this board. The unfair treatment in this place is ridiculous. Deberg gets thumped for being annoying. Inmem gets put on Miserable User for being annoying. Dozens of other users remain untouched. Hootie gets chance after chance after chance. Joey: chance after chance after chance. Inmem: ****ed without warning. Deberg loses thread starting privileges without warning because other posters are bitching. If we remove users that are annoying, many users would be gone. If we ban people because they post a lot, I can think of dozens of users that would have been gone years ago. Trolls? Please. Unpopular opinions? GTFO. DC is a freakin' cesspool of rudeness, meanness, and bigotry, and not a single thing happens to anyone in there. Ever. No action taken. We all know that if DC didn't exist, all of that shit would spill into the main forum. It's just an example because it does occasionally spill over here. Mods occasionally troll certain users (name changes, rep changes, etc.). I’m not trying to take the fun away; as long as it’s temporary, no big deal. It shouldn’t be long-term. Frazod, while questionably batchit crazy, is a good example of this. I know of one mod who’s given up on trying to do any discipline due to other mods complaining, or members threatening to revolt. Moderation seems based on whichever mod gets annoyed first. This is not a good way to moderate a board. Do we need some fresh blood? Maybe some mods that cannot control themselves need to fall on the sword and step down. Maybe a mod election would be good. tl;dr: Moderation here is BS. Let’s find a way to make it right.
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06-18-2015, 10:19 AM	#31
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $2208244	I'll admit that sometimes I go overboard with candy. I know it's not the healthiest, is bad for my teeth and I try to limit myself to just one piece a day, but **** me if it's not a struggle. Plain and simple, I love chewy, sour candy. Thanks for the reminder and discussion though. I'll start making a concerted effort to cut back.
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06-18-2015, 10:20 AM	#32
srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1591250	Who banned Simply Red? Can't ban those Dirty South boys they will go all witch doctor on ya. CP has has some serious bad mojo every since. Or maybe its been a shitty rainy spring and Chiefs offseason.
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06-18-2015, 10:21 AM	#33
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Predarat Run Chiefs fans, run!! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Casino cash: $9973863	What we need to do is tap into the Zfile and run an audit trail on all moderating actions of all moderators. That would be interesting stuff.
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