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Old 05-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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Tyler Bray is the kid I want if KC tottaly tanks, if Barkley is unattainable. The kid is pinpoint accurate, nice footwork, has a quick release, and a great NFL caliber arm.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #2
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Just another list of top QBs heading into next year.

http://www.lostlettermen.com/slidesh...013-nfl-draft/
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:13 PM   #3
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A top QB in the draft likely wont happen since I doubt the Chiefs are bad enough to even be able to make a move up for one, let alone be bad enough to draft one.

I'm not counting on many of the JR's to declare so I'm hoping someone like EJ Manuel comes through.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:48 PM   #4
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Oh same ole same ole. There will be 2 good QBs and then there is a huge dropoff and we will not be in a position to draft one of the top 2 so we are stuck drafting the 3rd or 4th best QB available. YeeHaw
Wash, Rinse, Repeat. We are going to have to trade up or have a horrible season. One that would make last season look good to get a top QB prospect.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:29 AM   #5
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Not that it'll be a problem for us but I'm going to just ask.

Why is Matt Barkley considered to be the #1 pick for next year? I get that he has a lot of experience and comes from a pro system but beyond that? I just don't see it.

It was either McShay or another scout who mentioned that Barkley is hard to evaluate because he's surrounded by such good talent at USC. I can see that. Furthermore, I don't think he has elite tools. Good size. Not great. I'd also say a very average NFL arm.

Watch this video. How many of these throws does he simply lob it up with a lot of air under the ball and allow his teammates to go make a play? That won't fly in the NFL.

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Old 05-09-2012, 08:40 AM   #6
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I've said it before but I am not a Barkley fan. I do think he is just a product of the talent around him. He frequently gets to just stand back there unmolested and then throw to a wide open Woods.

Maybe he will take the next step this year to start looking like a NFL QB.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:35 AM   #7
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At some point you've got to roll the dice, warts and all.

As far as QB prospects:

1. Barkley - I agree with the last few posters. I see your typical USC QB who has had the benefit of the best training, etc., since they were 5 years old, playing on a talented team against a bunch of bad defenses. These guys are close to peak and aren't used to adversity.

2. Tyler Bray - I do not get the fascination with this kid. Injured both years. Destroys poor competition, but is below average against better teams. Maybe he'll pull it together this year.

3. Tyler Wilson - my personal favorite so far.

4. Keith Price - Only saw him against Baylor and I was impressed, albeit against a bad D. I think he'll come in shorter than listed which will cause the various Breese comparison/arguments.

5. Landry Jones - I remember watching his first few games thinking, this kid has a lot of potential. Sadly, he hasn't seemed to improve. Looks like he did early on.

6. Logan Thomas - Haven't seen him play, but his stats are wildly inconsistent. Compl % ranged from 40% to 92% last year. 5 games under 55% .
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #8
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At some point you've got to roll the dice, warts and all.

As far as QB prospects:

1. Barkley - I agree with the last few posters. I see your typical USC QB who has had the benefit of the best training, etc., since they were 5 years old, playing on a talented team against a bunch of bad defenses. These guys are close to peak and aren't used to adversity.

2. Tyler Bray - I do not get the fascination with this kid. Injured both years. Destroys poor competition, but is below average against better teams. Maybe he'll pull it together this year.

3. Tyler Wilson - my personal favorite so far.

4. Keith Price - Only saw him against Baylor and I was impressed, albeit against a bad D. I think he'll come in shorter than listed which will cause the various Breese comparison/arguments.

5. Landry Jones - I remember watching his first few games thinking, this kid has a lot of potential. Sadly, he hasn't seemed to improve. Looks like he did early on.

6. Logan Thomas - Haven't seen him play, but his stats are wildly inconsistent. Compl % ranged from 40% to 92% last year. 5 games under 55% .

Remember all of the "don't draft Tannehill because the QB class next year is better" arguments?

Uh huh.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:02 PM   #9
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Remember all of the "don't draft Tannehill because the QB class next year is better" arguments?

Uh huh.
"Man, next year's class is going to be soooo good! There will be Andrew Luck... and Matt Barkley... and Landry Jones... and Nick Foles! We could potentially see four QBs go in the top 5! All of those guys are franchise studs!"
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:08 PM   #10
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At some point you've got to roll the dice, warts and all.

As far as QB prospects:

1. Barkley - I agree with the last few posters. I see your typical USC QB who has had the benefit of the best training, etc., since they were 5 years old, playing on a talented team against a bunch of bad defenses. These guys are close to peak and aren't used to adversity.

2. Tyler Bray - I do not get the fascination with this kid. Injured both years. Destroys poor competition, but is below average against better teams. Maybe he'll pull it together this year.

3. Tyler Wilson - my personal favorite so far.

4. Keith Price - Only saw him against Baylor and I was impressed, albeit against a bad D. I think he'll come in shorter than listed which will cause the various Breese comparison/arguments.

5. Landry Jones - I remember watching his first few games thinking, this kid has a lot of potential. Sadly, he hasn't seemed to improve. Looks like he did early on.

6. Logan Thomas - Haven't seen him play, but his stats are wildly inconsistent. Compl % ranged from 40% to 92% last year. 5 games under 55% .
who is breese? you keep typing the name wrong, it's rather annoying. BREES. as in, drew BREES. just like it was ryan SIMS, not ryan SIMMS. ryan SIMS was not the son of phil SIMMS.

sorry for mini-rant, but... that's all I could take.
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Good to see other Barkley haters on this thread.

Matt (like other reeruned USC QBs named Matt) didn't know when was the right time to leave college and enter the pros. It's possible that his draft stock tanks this year especially as other more talented QBs pass him up this year.

I realize that "tanks" is a strong word. I mean that Barkley drops out of the top 5 overall. I think that's a definite possibility.
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Assuming Bray and Murray stay in school for one more year, these are the QBs I'd be willing to take in the top 10 next year:

Matt Barkley
Tyler Wilson
Geno Smith

That's pretty much it. Price, Jones, and Thomas to me all scream "Nick Foles or Andrew Luck? I can't decide!"
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #13
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Just like this year, the good guys will be out of reach and everyone else will have major question marks. Just like this year (and last and ...).
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H5N5, what do you think of Ricky Stanzzi and Brady Quin's chances to unseat Cassell this year?
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H5N5, what do you think of Ricky Stanzzi and Brady Quin's chances to unseat Cassell this year?
Unseat him? Zero.

Their only chance is if Matt gets injured and either one lights it up in his time in. Thankfully for them, Matt hasn't completed a full season yet as a Chief.
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