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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

seaofred · 11-01-2013, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Does the team benefit from the increase in TV ratings?

Yes, all teams are going to get aprrox. $25,000,000 more revenue money

stonedstooge · 11-01-2013, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred

Yes, all teams are going to get aprrox. $25,000,000 more revenue money

GlASS says "come to Papa"

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-01-2013, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge

GlASS says "come to Papa"

He still has to make his money back on the wasted year from Meche's contract.

oh wait.

duncan_idaho · 11-01-2013, 02:53 PM

BTW, saw MLB Trade Rumors projecting some salaries for free agents and especially SPs...

I'm going to keep hammering the Phil Hughes agenda. They are projecting a one year, $8 million deal for Hughes. I think he's available to KC for 2 years, $16 (with incentives that could take into the 20-25 range).

Would be a nice fit, IMO. Throws strikes, has good stuff... just isn't a great fit for Yankee Stadium.

BlackHelicopters · 11-01-2013, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

He still has to make his money back on the wasted year from Meche's contract.

oh wait.

Sweeney's contract.

**alnorth** · 11-01-2013, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred

Yes, all teams are going to get aprrox. $25,000,000 more revenue money

He asked if the Royals will benefit from higher ratings. The Royals don't benefit from that for many years, when their local TV deal is up.

The $25MM/team is from the bump in MLB's national contract.

BigCatDaddy · 11-01-2013, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

He asked if the Royals will benefit from higher ratings. The Royals don't benefit from that for many years, when their local TV deal is up.

The $25MM/team is from the bump in MLB's national contract.

Right, thinking advertising dollars or something like that. Maybe they benefit from increase in merchandise. Just looking for other ways that being good can equal more dollars besides ticket sales.

**alnorth** · 11-01-2013, 03:28 PM

Anyway, unless the Royals were operating at a big loss last season, they really ought to have money to spend this season. I don't mind DM's comments though, there is no upside to announcing to the world (and to all the agents), "hey guys, we're goin' to $100MM! Who wants some money?"

Regarding Ervin, he's probably going to get at least 4 years, and maybe 5 years, at close to $15MM AAV. He's only 31, but still homer-prone, thats pretty risky...

Coach · 11-01-2013, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Anyway, unless the Royals were operating at a big loss last season, they really ought to have money to spend this season. I don't mind DM's comments though, there is no upside to announcing to the world (and to all the agents), "hey guys, we're goin' to $100MM! Who wants some money?"

Regarding Ervin, he's probably going to get at least 4 years, and maybe 5 years, at close to $15MM AAV. He's only 31, but still homer-prone, thats pretty risky...

I think, picking up Shields option and letting Santana the QO (Qualifying offer) was the smart move, IMHO.

Archie F. Swin · 11-04-2013, 07:40 AM

Major League Baseball may allow Oakland A's to play at AT&T Park

http://www.mercurynews.com/athletics...akland-play-at

With the A's lease-extension negotiations bogging down in Oakland, officials from Major League Baseball have introduced the idea of having the Giants share AT&T Park with the Athletics in 2014, this newspaper has confirmed.

However, it's unlikely such an arrangement will take place unless the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Commission fails to reach agreement on the A's request to extend their lease at O.co Coliseum for five years or less. The team's agreement to play at O.co expired at the conclusion of the 2013 season. But with MLB still wrestling with both the A's request for a move to San Jose as well as no feasible new ballpark plan surfacing in Oakland, the team wishes to keep playing at O.co until that issue is settled.

Negotiations on a lease extension have been ongoing for more than six months and differences have surfaced on concessions revenue and length of the extension. \

Representatives of the A's expected the terms to be resolved by now and still expect the team to play in Oakland in 2013 and for several more years. But with lease-extension talks stalling, Major League Baseball has become a party to the negotiations because it administers the schedule and needs to inform opponents where home games will be played.

The Giants could be forced to accept the unique sharing agreement for the same reason that the A's have been denied their request for a San Jose move -- because MLB has an antitrust exemption that gives it special powers to control franchise movement.

Two teams sharing a Major League ballpark would not be unprecedented. The Dodgers and the Angels both played in Dodger Stadium while Anaheim was building its new ballpark in the 1960's, and the Yankees and the Mets shared Shea Stadium during a Yankee Stadium remodeling project in the 70's.

cookster50 · 11-04-2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

BTW, saw MLB Trade Rumors projecting some salaries for free agents and especially SPs...

I'm going to keep hammering the Phil Hughes agenda. They are projecting a one year, $8 million deal for Hughes. I think he's available to KC for 2 years, $16 (with incentives that could take into the 20-25 range).

Would be a nice fit, IMO. Throws strikes, has good stuff... just isn't a great fit for Yankee Stadium.

I was thinking the same thing, he's a flyball pitcher, the K is a perfect fit for him.

duncan_idaho · 11-04-2013, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Anyway, unless the Royals were operating at a big loss last season, they really ought to have money to spend this season. I don't mind DM's comments though, there is no upside to announcing to the world (and to all the agents), "hey guys, we're goin' to $100MM! Who wants some money?"

Regarding Ervin, he's probably going to get at least 4 years, and maybe 5 years, at close to $15MM AAV. He's only 31, but still homer-prone, thats pretty risky...

The bolded is a good and valid point, and what I'm clinging to before going nuclear about the comments.

**alnorth** · 11-04-2013, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The bolded is a good and valid point, and what I'm clinging to before going nuclear about the comments.

If we take a shot at some free agents and miss before settling on in-house solutions for the rotation, I'd also be fine. (well, not fine, but fine as far as payroll goes) That would at least show we were willing to spend money, because if we truly want the same payroll as last year, then we can't afford to spend more than a couple million on free agents.

Tytanium · 11-04-2013, 01:29 PM

MLB Trade Rumors reports that the Royals will make a qualifying offer to Ervin Santana.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...n-santana.html

**Bowser** · 11-04-2013, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytanium

MLB Trade Rumors reports that the Royals will make a qualifying offer to Ervin Santana.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...n-santana.html

Really, they had to.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1730308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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