Why has Cassel Regressed since 2010?

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Ridiculous. 27 TD to 7 INTs. Even with smoke and mirrors, a weak schedule and a great running game - those are good numbers.

Yes good numbers. But drastically inflated.

Coached with kid gloves to minimize mistakes. Then given easy TDs to try to pump up his confidence.

That's how you get to 27 TDs & 7 Ins.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by suds79

Coached with kid gloves to minimize mistakes. Then given easy TDs to try to pump up his confidence.

That's how you get to 27 TDs & 7 Ins.

So what. That's all you can do with the guy. Haley, Muir and Daboll would have loved to have gotten that from Cassel.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by suds79

Yes good numbers. But drastically inflated.

Coached with kid gloves to minimize mistakes. Then given easy TDs to try to pump up his confidence.

That's how you get to 27 TDs & 7 Ins.

The main problem between then and now is the turnovers. With a guy like him that’s “limited” you almost certainly can not have the amount of turnovers he does now. His arm isn’t talented enough to dig himself or the team out of his mistakes.

[Deberg_1990]

I think Weis/Haley did a good job of protecting him. I think its been reported/mentioned that Weis dumbed down the system and worked on his mechanics as best he could. Basically got as much out of him as he possibly could. I do remember his mechanics and his throws seemed to be stronger in 2010.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I think Weis/Haley did a good job of protecting him. I think its been reported/mentioned that Weis dumbed down the system and worked on his mechanics as best he could. Basically got as much out of him as he possibly could. I do remember his mechanics and his throws seemed to be stronger in 2010.

I remember when Weis was brought in, he said "the first thing I have to do is 'fix' the quarterback".

His "fix" was to throw short passes and run the ball on obvious passing downs. It actually worked pretty well because it masked Cassel's weaknesses and Weis was a good play caller.

[FAX]

I don't think Weis gave a damn one way or the other about Cassel. However, we do know that Haley brought out the ol' bitch slap the dude across the grill every time he throws an INT coaching technique. That had a direct effect on his turnover ratio.

FAX

[JD10367]

I don't think he's regressed. As Belichick says, "It is what it is." Cassel is just one of many NFL QBs who should remain as backups because they're simply not good enough to start. You have four types of QB: 1) stars who start, 2) decently solid guys who start but don't awe you, and who are probably borderline backups sometimes, 3) solid backups who are good enough to win a game but probably should never be a starter, and 4) suck-ass QBs who are cannon fodder and benchwarmers. Brady, Manning(s), Roethlisberger, Brees, Rivers? Obvious 1s. Most of the other starters? Borderline 1s but more obviously 2s. Cassel is between a 3 and a 4.

You know how a homely girl is said to have "a nice personality"? The NFL QB equivalent is when they say, "With a strong running game, good receivers, a good coach, and a good defense, he's good enough to win games for you." It's like me saying, "With a 15-inch dick, a hundred million bucks in the bank, and a Lamborghini, I'd be a great catch for a woman." It's the freaking NFL. ANY QUARTERBACK worth his jock should be able to win games with a strong run game, pass-catchers, coach, and D. Cassel was elevated by the talent around him in 2007 in New England. At the time, it was hard not to give Cassel credit because honestly there was no other benchmark; everyone assumed he must be pretty good. Turns out he isn't.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by JD10367

I don't think he's regressed. As Belichick says, "It is what it is." Cassel is just one of many NFL QBs who should remain as backups because they're simply not good enough to start. You have four types of QB: 1) stars who start, 2) decently solid guys who start but don't awe you, and who are probably borderline backups sometimes, 3) solid backups who are good enough to win a game but probably should never be a starter, and 4) suck-ass QBs who are cannon fodder and benchwarmers. Brady, Manning(s), Roethlisberger, Brees, Rivers? Obvious 1s. Most of the other starters? Borderline 1s but more obviously 2s. Cassel is between a 3 and a 4.

You know how a homely girl is said to have "a nice personality"? The NFL QB equivalent is when they say, "With a strong running game, good receivers, a good coach, and a good defense, he's good enough to win games for you." It's like me saying, "With a 15-inch dick, a hundred million bucks in the bank, and a Lamborghini, I'd be a great catch for a woman." It's the freaking NFL. ANY QUARTERBACK worth his jock should be able to win games with a strong run game, pass-catchers, coach, and D. Cassel was elevated by the talent around him in 2007 in New England. At the time, it was hard not to give Cassel credit because honestly there was no other benchmark; everyone assumed he must be pretty good. Turns out he isn't.

[Graystoke]

It’s impossible to hide the deficiencies of Matt Cassell for longer then a season.
Easy schedule and Front Office propaganda even had Matt believing in himself for a little bit.

[Bane]

Again **** Casshole and anyone that supports him in any capacity.He was a piece of shit in college,in NE and has been a piece of worthless shit as a Chief.He has zero leadership skills and should be working the drive thru at jack in the box from 11am-5.

[Tribal Warfare]

Daboll is new to the equation, and he's attempting to have Cassel play like a NFL QB and Matt is failing. There is also the simple fact that Cassel realizes that this season is make or break for him, and like always is folding under the pressure. Other words the guy doesn't have the head for the position like I've been saying since day 1.

[FAX]

There is another possible factor ... I've only seen a few quarters of play so far, so I don't know ... but, are the enemy defenses bringing early and consistent pressure on him? If so, that could explain a lot of things.

FAX

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by FAX

There is another possible factor ... I've only seen a few quarters of play so far, so I don't know ... but, are the enemy defenses bringing early and consistent pressure on him? If so, that could explain a lot of things.

FAX

They do that to all QBs unless said QB makes the defenses pay for it. The way to beat Manning was to get to him, Brady was the same way. More often than not they punished opposing defenses for it though.

[suds79]

We've been blown out in 3 of our 4 games.

So Matt has to actually try to make plays to bring us back, like most QBs, and simply can't do it.

If the game is close, the D is playing well and Jamaal is doing what he normally does, Matt knows how to not screw it up. But that's about it.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by suds79

We've been blown out in 3 of our 4 games.

So Matt has to actually try to make plays to bring us back, like most QBs, and simply can't do it.

If the game is close, the D is playing well and Jamaal is doing what he normally does, Matt knows how to not screw it up. But that's about it.

Good point. No lead means playing catch up. Playing catch up means playing catch. Not his forte.

FAX