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Old 07-22-2012, 03:10 PM   #1
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Because the same people who screamed for 5 years that this team is worthless without a franchise QB are now the ones who say Haley is a lousy coach because he couldn't win without one.

I don't know if Haley was going to be a good coach or a great coach. I do know that he deserved better than a front office stubbornly clinging to a bad QB. And he deserved better than the petty micromanagement and head games that Pioli was pushing on him.
I'd take Cassel over Palko but maybe thats just me.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:11 PM   #2
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I'd take Cassel over Palko but maybe thats just me.
And who's damn fault was that? Last time I checked, Pioli was the guy who had the power to bring somebody else in.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:12 PM   #3
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And who's damn fault was that? Last time I checked, Pioli was the guy who had the power to bring somebody else in.
Pretty sure Kyle Orton was on the team.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:14 PM   #4
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Pretty sure Kyle Orton was on the team.
Oh right, THAT bullshit argument.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:14 PM   #5
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Oh right, THAT bullshit argument.
Do explain.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:18 PM   #6
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Do explain.
We're talking about one half of a game. Palko started over Orton. Haley made the QB switch in the second quarter. Orton dislocates a finger on the first play.

I'm not going to fault a guy because he doesn't want to put a guy with a serious injury on the field. And I'm not going to fault him if he didn't want to throw him into the fire a la Carson Palmer. I thought Orton should have started against Chicago. He didn't, but that's only one half of a game.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:14 PM   #7
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Pretty sure Kyle Orton was on the team.
Yeah, he should have started in Chicago.
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Yeah, he should have started in Chicago.
I would have started him against Pittsburgh or at least brought him in in the 2nd half. A half assed offense with Orton > a full playbook with Palko.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:19 PM   #9
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I would have started him against Pittsburgh or at least brought him in in the 2nd half. A half assed offense with Orton > a full playbook with Palko.
Orton had only been with the team for about 2 days. He was signed 4 days before and took personal leave after he was signed.

This isn't the argument you want to use.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:21 PM   #10
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Orton had only been with the team for about 2 days. He was signed 4 days before and took personal leave after he was signed.

This isn't the argument you want to use.
You love for Haley is too cute.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:24 PM   #11
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Orton had only been with the team for about 2 days. He was signed 4 days before and took personal leave after he was signed.

This isn't the argument you want to use.
Five set pass plays with Orton = exponentially better than anything involving Palko.

If you're remotely justifying Palko playing, your argument is laughably flawed. Hell, there's likely no way that Stanzi can be worse than Palko, and there was that option at the very least.

QB aside, Haley was and is a joke as a HC.
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