Elder Scrolls MMO Announced

[Mr. Laz]

Elder Scrolls Online Announced
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Posted 13 minutes ago - By Stephen Johnson

The Elder Scrolls Online has been announced by Bethesda. It is being developed for PC and Mac under the leadership of Matt Firor, who has spent the last two decades working in online game development.

“We have been working hard to create an online world in which players will be able to experience the epic Elder Scrolls universe with their friends, something fans have long said they wanted,” said Matt Firor, game director of The Elder Scrolls Online. “It will be extremely rewarding finally to unveil what we have been developing the last several years. The entire team is committed to creating the best MMO ever made – and one that is worthy of The Elder Scrolls franchise.”

Details are scant at this time, but expect a screenshot later today and a teaser trailer tomorrow.

[Nightfyre]

For pvp gear, I think the disparity between new guys and heavily geared guys was too high when I played WoW. What if they did a normalizing system where say the best gear in the instance provides up to 125% of the base stats of a basic pvp armor and gear is then proportionately scaled based on the guy with the best gear.
So maybe the guy has the highest tier armor, but the basic pvp armor provides 50 stamina or whatever. The guy has the best gear, so he will get 125% or 62.5 stamina out of his gear instead of the stated value. Meanwhile the guy with the tier below him gets a smaller proportion - say 120% or 60 stamina. And the guy in the basic armor just gets 100% or 50 stamina. This way, the gear grind is still in effect, but not gamebreaking for entry level players. The percentages, of course are pulled out of my ass, but the idea is sound, imo.

[kaplin42]

Spoiler!

Originally Posted by Detoxing

With WoW transmog model, there's no need. You can simply copy the appearance of item "A" over to item "B". It makes old content relative again as well since it encourages players to go back to old raids to get that epic staff drop so that you can use its appearance, while at the same time allowing Blizz to continue to create higher end game content with higher gear scores so nothing gets stale.

As far as the PvP thing goes, they DO get to cream noobs. For example:

A Complete PvP set will bring your Gear set score to 522. Lets say some elite PvE guys enters a Battleground with a PvE gear score of 560. That 560 Ilvl will then scale down in stats to 496 once he enters the BG. This ensures that PvE players who are new to PvP dont get completely destroyed but at the same time, keeps it so that having PvP gear in PvP content is actually GREATER than having PvE gear.

Also, WoW gives all players a base Resil of 70%. This means that all dmg done Player to Player is reduced by 70%. This keeps the insane PvE gear from one shotting people in lesser gear. PvP gear awards "PvP Power", which is the anti-Resil. The more PvP Power a person has, the less his dmg can be resisted by the 70% baseline Resil, again helping to add importance to PvP gear in PvP content.

So again, Someone who LOVES PvE and is in full 560 gear can go into PvP and be competitive, but still not as good as someone in 522 PvP gear, that doesn't get downscaled.

Ideas like these are why WoW is the King of the MMO.

Thanks for the info Detox. Quick question though, how does the PVP gear fair in PVE environments?

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by kaplin42

Thanks for the info Detox. Quick question though, how does the PVP gear fair in PVE environments?

If you have a full set of PvP 522 gear, you can perform decently in entry level raiding such as "Raid Finder". Raid Finder is Normal Mode Raiding....but on easy Mode with a pick up group. It's basically a scaled down version of a raid designed for casual players who are either not good enough, or simply dont have the time/guild to do Normal Mode raiding. Raid Finder drops PvE gear that would be the next stepping stone to getting into Normal Mode raiding. PvP gear is 522. Raid Finder will drop 528 PvE Gear. Normal Mode Raiding will drop 551.

To sum it up:

PvP Gear: Best Gear for Casual PvP and a MUST have for Rated, organized PvP. Good enough for Casual PvE, NOT good enough for Organized Raid PvE.

PvE Gear: Best Gear for Casual PvE and a MUST for Organized PvE. Good enough for Casual PvP, NOT good enough for Rated, Organized PvP.

Basically, both sets are "Ok" for the other, but excel in the environments they were designed for.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

For pvp gear, I think the disparity between new guys and heavily geared guys was too high when I played WoW.

It's changed now as i've explained with Blizz's new Gear Scaling. If you decided to pick up WoW one day and jump into a BG, you won't get your ass kicked the way you use to. You won't top the dmg charts or get Top Killing Blows either, but at least you won't get run over anymore.

[kaplin42]

I have an IPT invite for anyone if they give their beta invite to Hometeam

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by kaplin42

I have an IPT invite for anyone if they give their beta invite to Hometeam

hooray! MTG?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by kaplin42

As far as the PVP thing though, why shouldn't PVP'ers who have devoted hours and hours and hours to that game style be able to cream the nubs that just pop in? I mean have you ever run a raid or dungeon with someone has top tier raid gear? It's not even funny how much more powerful they are, don't see why it shouldn't be the same for PVPer's.

Because the game maker wants all facets of the game to appeal to everyone. Blizzard has made that mistake with WoW time and again. They try to make it everything for everyone. It's not fun to be behind the curve on pvp gear, and once it happens the rich get richer.

Start slotting players relative to gear, and the wait times between battles gets longer. Not to mention the fruits of your labor are diminished.

[hometeam]

scored a key in a twitch giveaway.

Will be on about 7:30pm tommorrow barring connection issues etc.

Anyone playing can add me on steam - Falx , there are several, i have a picture of a green goo covered ball as my avi

[MTG#10]

Already have an IPT account. Doesn't matter anyway, I guess since I already activated my beta code for the first beta test I can't let anyone else use it without giving personal information

Originally Posted by hometeam

scored a key in a twitch giveaway.

Glad to hear it

[hometeam]

weeeeeeeeelp can create characters but cant load into game. so havent gotten to play yet, anyone else get in?

YES I JUST BROKE THE NDA

[hometeam]

woops now even login servers are going up and down and giving errors

[kaplin42]

I have but one thought to give.

Meh

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by kaplin42

I have but one thought to give.

Meh

Yep.

pretty much sucks. will end up being a big fat blemish on the elder scrolls name.

[Hammock Parties]

its beta you idiots

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

its beta you idiots

I understand what Beta is. The little things that you know will be fixed on release is not what I am concerned about.

I have Beta tested almost every single MMO since warhammer online.

The game still sucks ass. The game is very much close to being finished. The game engine is shit. The questing is generic and tedious, it is SWTOR in elder scrolls clothing.

You can feel the way the game is setup to grind you out. You can tell the decisions going into this game are ALL about MONEY and not about the gameplay experience.

Mark my words, this game will be f2p by the 18 month mark.