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Cannibal · 08-29-2000, 02:06 PM

Cunningham: "When you're backed up to your own end of the field, I told (offensive coordinator) Jimmy (Raye) and the quarterback, you don't start throwing the football around unless you take a play- action shot and go for it all on one play. What you do is protect your endzone. You get a couple of first downs or one first down and you put (punter) Todd Sauerbrun out there. We acquired Todd Sauerbrun who, I believe, has averaged over 50 yards a punt in pre-season. That makes you feel good as a head coach to get ‘em down at other end of the field and play defense, keep them there.

Personally I would prefer the philosophy: "Hey, if we're backup up in our own zone, we're going to drive 90 yards for the touchdown, whatever it takes."

scooter · 08-30-2000, 07:16 AM

Welcome to Guntherball. Choosing Rich as the HB instead of a Cloud/Rich combo ensures we'll see lots o 8 man fronts. This quote ensures we'll see lots of slams into those fronts.

Gunther seems intent on proving some kind of macho 'I'm a tough guy' thing. Unfortunately we'll be the ones showing our macho as we watch the parade of 3 and outs.

sun · 08-30-2000, 07:26 AM

I agree with Wolfman. I have held in my true feeling about Gun for my love of the team. However, he is making it hard to respect him. I have thought since day 1 that he has no business as a head coach. I will stick by him though, just as he has done with Grbac. If nothing is produced soon, I say they both go.

shakesthecat · 08-30-2000, 07:38 AM

This quote isn't the only one he has made lately that has me scratching my head. Forget the fact we lost all games in preseason, what did we learn, from those games, player evaluation, I guess that will be decided. This team looked down, that is the only term I can use, as it took the field in the SF and Tampa game, and even going into the opening game, I am sensing, complete disarray. The decision to cut Rison, which I agreed with, was met with some doubts, by other players. I think Warfield himself, was the most astounded by Dishman, which I also liked. I think the veterans all rallied around Gun last year, and really overachieved, this year I just get the feeling that loyalty and admiration is lacking. By the way, I don't know what his personal problems are, but he had better get his head into the season fast.

b-squared · 08-30-2000, 07:44 AM

I think what Gun is trying to say is this: The game of football is a game of field position. You don't want to have a pass intercepted when you are backed up near your own goal line. Better to chuck a long one (if its intercepted its like a punt) and then it must be setup by play action.

With a good punter the battle for field position should swing in our favor then we can open it up and punch it in.

Just trying to give Gun the benefit of the doubt, but I do think this is a correct approach to coaching. Not taking a sack or interception deep in your own territory is a good idea!

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Still I dream of a cold frosty day probably too far away when the Chiefs are still playing football in mid January

HawkeyeChief · 08-30-2000, 11:30 AM

Chiefnj: you said,
All Raye bashers please take note. Raye is following Gun's orders!!

I am the king when it comes to bashing Raye. This is an example of how Gun has to give him the most simple of instructions about protecting their own end zone. Gun's comment is obvious to everyone but Raye. <BR>

Duck Dog · 08-30-2000, 01:13 PM

I want to see long passes for exciting touchdown runs. I am tired of up the gut for little or no gain runs that go nowhere!!!

Snapper · 08-30-2000, 01:19 PM

Gun is talking about special teams. He likes what he sees out of Saurbrun (Sp?). So if we do have a 3 and out like all teams have Todd can move the ball back to their end of the field. His comments are not reflecting his thoughts on our offense.

Hoover
Read the whole story, not just a quote.

[This message has been edited by Hoover (edited 08-30-2000).]

**Bob Dole** · 08-30-2000, 01:48 PM

Hoover your correct some of these people jump to conclusions so much on incorrect or incomplete information. It's laughable.

stevieray · 08-30-2000, 02:20 PM

It appears to me that if the Chiefs offense managed a "few first downs" that would put them around their own 30 yard line.

Wouldn't you then be able to "throw the ball around" more effectively?

Cannibal · 08-30-2000, 06:56 PM

Actually if you look at last season, the entire gameplan when going into Baltimore and Tampa was to protect the ball when we got it deep in our zone, which is why we barely scored in either of those games in the first half. They kept running the ball and punting hoping the D would create some turnovers. I hope we've moved beyond that this year...

08-30-2000, 07:16 AM	#16
scooter Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $9994900	Welcome to Guntherball. Choosing Rich as the HB instead of a Cloud/Rich combo ensures we'll see lots o 8 man fronts. This quote ensures we'll see lots of slams into those fronts. Gunther seems intent on proving some kind of macho 'I'm a tough guy' thing. Unfortunately we'll be the ones showing our macho as we watch the parade of 3 and outs.
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08-30-2000, 07:26 AM	#17
sun Tacklen' Fuel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Farmington, Mo. Casino cash: $10004900	I agree with Wolfman. I have held in my true feeling about Gun for my love of the team. However, he is making it hard to respect him. I have thought since day 1 that he has no business as a head coach. I will stick by him though, just as he has done with Grbac. If nothing is produced soon, I say they both go.
Posts: 388

08-30-2000, 07:38 AM	#18
shakesthecat Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IA Casino cash: $4193833	This quote isn't the only one he has made lately that has me scratching my head. Forget the fact we lost all games in preseason, what did we learn, from those games, player evaluation, I guess that will be decided. This team looked down, that is the only term I can use, as it took the field in the SF and Tampa game, and even going into the opening game, I am sensing, complete disarray. The decision to cut Rison, which I agreed with, was met with some doubts, by other players. I think Warfield himself, was the most astounded by Dishman, which I also liked. I think the veterans all rallied around Gun last year, and really overachieved, this year I just get the feeling that loyalty and admiration is lacking. By the way, I don't know what his personal problems are, but he had better get his head into the season fast.
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08-30-2000, 07:44 AM	#19
b-squared It's hip to b-squared Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: State of Confusion Casino cash: $10004900	I think what Gun is trying to say is this: The game of football is a game of field position. You don't want to have a pass intercepted when you are backed up near your own goal line. Better to chuck a long one (if its intercepted its like a punt) and then it must be setup by play action. With a good punter the battle for field position should swing in our favor then we can open it up and punch it in. Just trying to give Gun the benefit of the doubt, but I do think this is a correct approach to coaching. Not taking a sack or interception deep in your own territory is a good idea! ------------------ Still I dream of a cold frosty day probably too far away when the Chiefs are still playing football in mid January
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08-30-2000, 11:30 AM	#20
HawkeyeChief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sioux City, IA Casino cash: $10004900	Chiefnj: you said, All Raye bashers please take note. Raye is following Gun's orders!! I am the king when it comes to bashing Raye. This is an example of how Gun has to give him the most simple of instructions about protecting their own end zone. Gun's comment is obvious to everyone but Raye. <BR>
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08-29-2000, 02:06 PM
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Cunningham: "When you're backed up to your own end of the field, I told (offensive coordinator) Jimmy (Raye) and the quarterback, you don't start throwing the football around unless you take a play- action shot and go for it all on one play. What you do is protect your endzone. You get a couple of first downs or one first down and you put (punter) Todd Sauerbrun out there. We acquired Todd Sauerbrun who, I believe, has averaged over 50 yards a punt in pre-season. That makes you feel good as a head coach to get ‘em down at other end of the field and play defense, keep them there. Personally I would prefer the philosophy: "Hey, if we're backup up in our own zone, we're going to drive 90 yards for the touchdown, whatever it takes."
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08-30-2000, 01:13 PM	#21
Duck Dog Reap the whirlwind Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10004900	I want to see long passes for exciting touchdown runs. I am tired of up the gut for little or no gain runs that go nowhere!!!
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08-30-2000, 01:19 PM	#22
Snapper Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Oswego,Ks,USofA Casino cash: $10004900	Gun is talking about special teams. He likes what he sees out of Saurbrun (Sp?). So if we do have a 3 and out like all teams have Todd can move the ball back to their end of the field. His comments are not reflecting his thoughts on our offense. Hoover Read the whole story, not just a quote. [This message has been edited by Hoover (edited 08-30-2000).]
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08-30-2000, 01:48 PM	#23
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $2454497	Hoover your correct some of these people jump to conclusions so much on incorrect or incomplete information. It's laughable.
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08-30-2000, 02:20 PM	#24
stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $2455273	It appears to me that if the Chiefs offense managed a "few first downs" that would put them around their own 30 yard line. Wouldn't you then be able to "throw the ball around" more effectively?
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08-30-2000, 06:56 PM	#25
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Actually if you look at last season, the entire gameplan when going into Baltimore and Tampa was to protect the ball when we got it deep in our zone, which is why we barely scored in either of those games in the first half. They kept running the ball and punting hoping the D would create some turnovers. I hope we've moved beyond that this year...
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