Is Aaron Rodgers GROSSLY overrated?

[Hootie]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ck-experiment/

I watched the entire GB/Det game and I must say...Rodgers has not gotten better at getting rid of the ball. He's got a lot of Alex Smith in him in that regard. He takes a TON of unnecessary sacks. It's bothersome. He also missed a wide open Jordy Nelson when trying to come back on 4th and 5 with a terrible pass 3 yards behind him in a clean pocket...

He's had 1 good playoff run. So has Joe Flacco.

Why does everyone think he's the best QB in the NFL?

I think he's top 5, certainly. But I also don't understand how Tony Romo is a choker, but Aaron Rodgers is not?

I have been grossly unimpressed with Rodgers this year...and in all honesty, the last few postseasons...super meh.

I've said this for a few years now, but...I'd take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers and at this point, I don't even think it's close.

Also, Rodgers is nowhere near Peyton Manning (obvi) or IN HIS PRIME Tom Brady, let's be honest.

[Hootie]

I mean, it's HYSTERICAL how people on CHIEFSPLANET.COM view Peyton Manning. All of the envy and hate clouds judgment to the point of people posting he's not a top 10 NFL QB of all-time.

It's HILARIOUS.

[Hootie]

and everyone always talks about INTERCEPTIONS taken by QBs

but no one ever brings up sacks...and, honestly speaking, sacks, while not as bad as an INT, are literal DRIVE KILLERS.

Aaron Rodgers has ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS held the ball too long and thus, has always taken FAR TOO MANY sacks. His greatest asset (big plays) is also his biggest weakness (always looking for big plays)...and it hurts his team.

I think it's really funny when everyone says "Green Bay has a terrible line!" Well, he'd make a really good line look a lot ****ing worse because he has a terrible habit of holding the ball FAR too long. It's a flaw. He's a great QB with a bad flaw. Most QB's are going to have flaws...Rodgers has a lot fewer than many.

Peyton Manning, since 2003, has taken anywhere between 10 - 21 sacks total, all year long...

AARON RODGERS HAS TAKEN OVER 50 ****ING SACKS TWICE, TWICE...AND LED THE LEAGUE BOTH TIMES.

Ok, I'm sorry. That doesn't show up on the amazing stat sheet...but it KILLS drives.

You can't sit here and say, "oh!! that's because his line sucked!"

Bull ****ing shit. Peyton Manning hasn't had ALL-PRO LINES for the last 12 years of his career. He makes his lines look good because he is decisive, makes quick reads, and makes the right football play 9 times out of 10. They lost Clady last year, had an UDFA take over, and he took less sacks in 2013 than he did in 2012.

Sacks are drive killers. Rodgers will never be on Peyton's level until he stops taking sacks at that high of a rate.

[SAUTO]

Sacks show up on the stat page, you just have to look in their column.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Sacks show up on the stat page, you just have to look in their column.

You just HAD to do that, didn't you.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

You just HAD to do that, didn't you.

It's my job around here, ask george

[Hootie]

In comparison, Brady takes about 30 per year. To Manning's 15. And Rodgers' 40.

I mean, people are going to scoff at it...but how many times do you see teams convert 2nd and 20? Or 3rd and 15?

How many drives per game does an offense get?

Rodgers, from a mechanics standpoint, is UNBELIEVABLE. Best ever. He'll never TRULY BE ELITE until he stops taking THAT MANY sacks.

I think he can take that step...but he has to take it before I'll stop considering him to be overrated.

Again, he's great. He's just not as great as CP thinks he is.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

It's my job around here, ask george

[-King-]

Manning during his superbowl run:

61% completion
259 yards per game
0.75 TDs per game
1.75 INTs per game
68.1 passer rating


I mean, that post season run was average AT BEST. He got out of the first two games by pure luck. He was flat out TERRIBLE in those games.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by -King-

Manning during his superbowl run:

61% completion
259 yards per game
0.75 TDs per game
1.75 INTs per game
68.1 passer rating


I mean, that post season run was average AT BEST. He got out of the first two games by pure luck. He was flat out TERRIBLE in those games.

The bright lights don't agree with him.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

In comparison, Brady takes about 30 per year. To Manning's 15. And Rodgers' 40.

I mean, people are going to scoff at it...but how many times do you see teams convert 2nd and 20? Or 3rd and 15?

How many drives per game does an offense get?

Rodgers, from a mechanics standpoint, is UNBELIEVABLE. Best ever. He'll never TRULY BE ELITE until he stops taking THAT MANY sacks.

I think he can take that step...but he has to take it before I'll stop considering him to be overrated.

Again, he's great. He's just not as great as CP thinks he is.

Hootie's Rodgers thread is stealth Manning slurping thread.

Color me surprised.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

Manning during his superbowl run:

61% completion
259 yards per game
0.75 TDs per game
1.75 INTs per game
68.1 passer rating


I mean, that post season run was average AT BEST. He got out of the first two games by pure luck. He was flat out TERRIBLE in those games.

Unfortunately, King...I watch the games.

He brought them back down 21-3 against the Patriots and TOM BRADY in that AFC Championship Game (the same game that ended on a Tom Brady INT, how clutch!!)

and he played a very good game against the Bears and a truly elite Bears defense. Tremendously efficient.

I don't give a flying **** about numbers...I watch the games. It's why I don't watch Russell Wilson and then think, "oh gee...he's not that good because his numbers aren't super flashy!"

any football fan that truly thinks Aaron Rodgers is better than Peyton Manning is a fool. That is fact. It's not up for debate.

[GoChargers]

Fivehead is a choker and a loser, get over it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Manning won't be going back to the Super Bowl this year.

[Hootie]

hmm

Rivers, who I defend, is thought of in the same manner...

but, of course, he's never been good enough to put them in a situation big enough to really show off his choking and losing abilities

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

Manning won't be going back to the Super Bowl this year.

Ha

who exactly in the AFC is going to beat him?

Denver is still going to win a minimum of 13 games this year.