I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

In my short time here, I find that your posts generally suck ass.

It's a good thing I don't value your opinion at all. Go back and tell me how you saw Pitoitua playing NT in the 1st QTR.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Arent we discussing football right now?

The people in this thread were. You, however, are not.

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Le sigh. Pestilence trying to champion his homeboy. I'm about 99% sure if Quinn is given a chance to start and teams are given the normal amount of time to game plan for him, he will crash and burn and we can put this crap to rest.

All I'm saying is give him a shot......if he fails....then he has no excuses. Even you had to admit (before the INT) that he was playing better than you expected him too.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

All I'm saying is give him a shot......if he fails....then he has no excuses. Even you had to admit (before the INT) that he was playing better than you expected him too.

Didnt he have his shot in Cleveland?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Didnt he have his shot in Cleveland?

It's been talked about before....but his shot in Cleveland was ****ed. He got drafted as the QBoTF. Anderson went out and earned a new contract.....so they weren't going to bench Anderson over Quinn. Quinn finally got his shot....and got injured. Crennel got fired and Mangini came in and completely ****ed up that QB situation. He would bench Anderson and start Quinn until Quinn made a mistake....and then he would bench Quinn for Anderson. Rinse and repeat.

Could he have played better when he had his shot? **** yes.

Go look at all of the teams that he's played on. This team surrounds him with the talent that he's never really had.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It's been talked about before....but his shot in Cleveland was ****ed. He got drafted as the QBoTF. Anderson went out and earned a new contract.....so they weren't going to bench Anderson over Quinn. Quinn finally got his shot....and got injured. Crennel got fired and Mangini came in and completely ****ed up that QB situation. He would bench Anderson and start Quinn until Quinn made a mistake....and then he would bench Quinn for Anderson. Rinse and repeat.

Could he have played better when he had his shot? **** yes.

Go look at all of the teams that he's played on. This team surrounds him with the talent that he's never really had.

I dont disagree with any of that, but he had his chances to beat out Derick Anderson and couldnt do it.

He might get his shot again someday and do well, but at this point in time, its pointless to continue whining about him starting over Cassel.

I have no expectations about Quinn. None. The realist in me thinks hes not any better than Cassel overall though. Just because a guy has a stronger arm doesnt make him better.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

It's been talked about before....but his shot in Cleveland was ****ed. He got drafted as the QBoTF. Anderson went out and earned a new contract.....so they weren't going to bench Anderson over Quinn. Quinn finally got his shot....and got injured. Crennel got fired and Mangini came in and completely ****ed up that QB situation. He would bench Anderson and start Quinn until Quinn made a mistake....and then he would bench Quinn for Anderson. Rinse and repeat.

Could he have played better when he had his shot? **** yes.

Go look at all of the teams that he's played on. This team surrounds him with the talent that he's never really had.

People should read this. Slowly. Then re-read it.

Whether or not Quinn is any good remains to be seen. The only thing that is certain is Quinn has never had a legitimate chance in the NFL. 11 starts in your first two years on the worst franchise in football doesn't tell you much.

My guess is, however, we're still looking at drafting a QB next year. And I'm guessing it's in the 2nd round.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

All I'm saying is give him a shot......if he fails....then he has no excuses. Even you had to admit (before the INT) that he was playing better than you expected him too.

Oh he absolutely was playing much better. I was pretty impressed. And by all means I want him to get a shot just as bad as you do. For different reasons obviously. But I definitely do want him to start.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Oh he absolutely was playing much better. I was pretty impressed. And by all means I want him to get a shot just as bad as you do. For different reasons obviously. But I definitely do want him to start.

I fully get that the reason we want to see him get a shot is completely different. At least we can agree on him getting a shot.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

All I'm saying is give him a shot......if he fails....then he has no excuses. Even you had to admit (before the INT) that he was playing better than you expected him too.

This is what I am talking about. Bad ****ing post. Why the **** even write something like this? He's done getting shots. His only chance is if Cassel gets hurt. Even if that happens, he will have a very short leash.

Brady Quinn sucks. Especially when you consider that QBs get extra time to develop. Then when you consider that first round draft picks get even more time to develop it must eventually cross your mind that Quinn sucks ass. He might be able to manage a game or two for us but that is realistically it.

I admired the way he played the other night but he is a short term back up QB. That's all he is. He had his chances and failed.

[Chiefnj2]

The general view of QB's on this board is so over the top.

Every single Cassel pass is scrutinized more than the god damn Zapruder film. People hate Cassel so much they look to nitpit every thing the guy does. He can throw a 9 yard pass that the WR takes for an additional 20 yards, and instead of being mildly pleased with a 29 yard gain the response is - he didn't hit him in stride, he missed a wide open Baldwin 50 yards down the field, he didn't go through his progressions, his footwork was laughable on that drop back, what a weak throw, he held the ball too long, etc.

Multiple INTs in the endzone by a backup and it is - you know if you look at it with an open mind he did a really good job. The INT wasn't really his fault, the receiver gave up, he didn't have enough time with those receivers, he made better reads leading up to the pass, his footwork is much better, his release was much better, they only scored 7 points but the offense was much, much more efficient.

Debating about wether Orton, Quinn, Wallace, Thigpen, Stanzi or Cassel is the guy to put KC over top? Really? That's the debate that gets people into a fervor? Which third tier QB is the best?

[The Franchise]

Oh...and FWIW.....if Quinn gets the start and tears it up. I'm fully on board with drafting a QB next year to sit behind him for the 1st year and then open competition after that.

[Setsuna]

Despite all the agreements and disagreements....can we ALL agree that if he does get his chance here, this will determine whether or not he can make it as a starting QB the rest of his career?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Despite all the agreements and disagreements....can we ALL agree that if he does get his chance here, this will determine whether or not he can make it as a starting QB the rest of his career?

I can fully agree with that.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I can fully agree with that.

Yep. Last chance.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

can we ALL agree that if he does get his chance here, this will determine whether or not he can make it as a starting QB the rest of his career?

There are guys around here that still believe Thigpen can be a starter. What do you think?

[Chiefnj2]

Quinn is a guy who has been unable to beat out Derek Anderson, Kyle Orton, Tim Tebow and Matt Cassel. It took three weeks of preseason to beat out Ricky Stanzi.