Chiefs Chiefs have done the right thing with Herb Taylor - Page 2

Boris The Great · 09-29-2008, 01:01 AM

I thought the game should have been proof enough of this, but amazingly I see a bunch of posts actually criticizing the coaching staff because Herb Taylor - who if you missed it, came right in at LT and hardly missed a beat - hasnt been playing at RT the past few games.

WHAT?

Try looking at the big picture when you think about this. Would Taylor be an upgrade over McIntosh at RT? Probably, yes. But what if Albert gets hurt? And its not as if that was unexpected, with him getting hurt in both minicamp and training camp with the same foot injury. Thankfully his injury in the game had nothing to do with that foot, but obviously the coaches considered the possibility that they may be without him at some point because it has been reported several times that Taylor hasnt taken snaps at RT.

Isnt it valuable to have a backup LT who can come in off the bench and play the way Taylor did?

Just think: what if they benched McIntosh a few weeks ago and put in Taylor? What would have happened when Albert got hurt? McIntosh would be the new LT, thats what. Who in the world wants to see that?

Or if they didnt do that, they would mix up everything and move Taylor back from RT to LT and put McIntosh back at RT after benching him, which is an even worse idea. McIntosh would be worse off at RT than he is now because he wouldnt have been getting the practice reps with the starters. To say nothing of the fact that he was benched and probably even less confident. And Taylor would be worse off at LT than he is now because he would have been trying to get things down at RT and would have to readjust on the fly.

Its like someone asking you if you want $50 today or $5 every day for 20 days. A lot of you would apparently take the $50 today. But the team looked at the bigger picture and kept Taylor working at LT. And look what happened, he came in and played well.

The bottom line is that if the team had benched McIntosh for Taylor at any point, they would be WORSE OFF right now than they actually are. Because they handled things well, hopefully we will get through Alberts injury with as little damage as possible. Instead of the days when we had a scrub like Jordan Black filling in for Willie Roaf, the team is actually being smart about their backup at one of the most important positions on the team.

And people here want to criticize them for it! Its amazing.

Frankie · 09-30-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Two reasons to start Taylor at RT:
1. You put your best players on the field
2. You put your players in the position where they are their best

Taylor is the best RT and second best OT on the roster. McIntoad is much better at LT than RT. Thus, both requirements are met.

Additional reasons:
1. McIntoads bad knee he is better at backup where there is less daily wear
2. Now is the time to develop the young linemen not after the rebuilding is complete
3. There is no reason to develop a 31 year old tackle

It makes no sense to me why McIntoad is the starting RT.

Good post. But I'm not sure your reason 2 (top) is necessarily the case (though I hope you are right). From all I've read Taylor was a LT in college. I have never heard that RT is his best position.

TrickyNicky · 09-30-2008, 01:29 PM

Jones was solid. He is getting better at pulling too. Watch LJ's 15 yard run early in the 3rd quarter from Clay's highlights. He absolutely squashes the safety.

RustShack · 09-30-2008, 01:31 PM

McIntosh seems to be getting a little better at RT too... Which could make Herm put Taylor back on the bench when Albert comes back

MIAdragon · 09-30-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You start your best guys you don't put your 2nd best OT as your backup LT.

No shit is this that hard to understand!?

beach tribe · 09-30-2008, 01:35 PM

Dude. NO. You put your best payers on the field. The same reason Albert played guard in college.

cookster50 · 09-30-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

Taylor=LTOF
Huard=qb rest of season.
Albert=rg or bust.

???/

beach tribe · 09-30-2008, 01:38 PM

AND I guarantee Taylor would be more ready to switch over to left if he'd been playing RT than if he'd been sitting on the ****in bench.

Chief Faithful · 09-30-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Good post. But I'm not sure your reason 2 (top) is necessarily the case (though I hope you are right). From all I've read Taylor was a LT in college. I have never heard that RT is his best position.

Point 2 holds true for McIntoad. He is purely an LT and has not been able to adjust to RT. Taylor has been great at LT, no doubt, but he also proved very capable at RT last year. Plus, if you want to invest time to develop a RT why not invest in the 24 year old not the 31 year old.

**DaFace** · 09-30-2008, 01:45 PM

I think we should start Cottam at TE instead of Gonzo. You know, for depth.

BigRock · 09-30-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

No shit is this that hard to understand!?

Is it so hard to understand that the team wanted to be careful, given that Albert had a foot issue? And that they wanted a steady backup at left tackle, BY FAR the more important position of the two?

WHAT NO THAT'S JUST CRAZY TALK

beach tribe · 09-30-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Is it so hard to understand that the team wanted to be careful, given that Albert had a foot issue? And that they wanted a steady backup at left tackle, BY FAR the more important position of the two?

WHAT NO THAT'S JUST CRAZY TALK

He could go play the left, if Albert went down.

LIke I said, experience on the right side prepares you for the left better than sitting on the bench.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

He could go play the left, if Albert went down.

LIke I said, experience on the right side prepares you for the left better than sitting on the bench.

Yeah, that worked out SOOOOOOOO well for Jordan Black

beach tribe · 09-30-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, that worked out SOOOOOOOO well for Jordan Black

Dude are you seriously throwing I-65 into this discussion? Are you saying Taylor should not be starting at right tackle over McInpuss. Don't let your urge to disagree with me make you post stupid shit. He should be our RT.

BigRock · 09-30-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

He could go play the left, if Albert went down.

LIke I said, experience on the right side prepares you for the left better than sitting on the bench.

I'm willing to bet that lining up at LT all through training camp, starting there during the preseason, and continuing to play LT when you practice prepares you for the left better than doing all those things, then suddenly switching over to the opposite side a week or two into the season and trying to learn that position, and then having to switch BACK again right in the middle of a game.

beach tribe · 09-30-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

I'm willing to bet that lining up at LT all through training camp, starting there during the preseason, and continuing to play LT when you practice prepares you for the left better than doing all those things, then suddenly switching over to the opposite side a week or two into the season and trying to learn that position, and then having to switch BACK again right in the middle of a game.

That may be true, but Herb should be our RT over Tosh. He's gonna be a pine rider for for 31 yr old loser, and if your gonna be a backup, lineman your gonna be moved all over the place. I'd rather him be put on the right side permanently, and McIntosh be the backup at the position he's been playing for 10 yrs.

09-29-2008, 01:01 AM
Boris The Great Starter Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Chiefs have done the right thing with Herb Taylor I thought the game should have been proof enough of this, but amazingly I see a bunch of posts actually criticizing the coaching staff because Herb Taylor - who if you missed it, came right in at LT and hardly missed a beat - hasnt been playing at RT the past few games. WHAT? Try looking at the big picture when you think about this. Would Taylor be an upgrade over McIntosh at RT? Probably, yes. But what if Albert gets hurt? And its not as if that was unexpected, with him getting hurt in both minicamp and training camp with the same foot injury. Thankfully his injury in the game had nothing to do with that foot, but obviously the coaches considered the possibility that they may be without him at some point because it has been reported several times that Taylor hasnt taken snaps at RT. Isnt it valuable to have a backup LT who can come in off the bench and play the way Taylor did? Just think: what if they benched McIntosh a few weeks ago and put in Taylor? What would have happened when Albert got hurt? McIntosh would be the new LT, thats what. Who in the world wants to see that? Or if they didnt do that, they would mix up everything and move Taylor back from RT to LT and put McIntosh back at RT after benching him, which is an even worse idea. McIntosh would be worse off at RT than he is now because he wouldnt have been getting the practice reps with the starters. To say nothing of the fact that he was benched and probably even less confident. And Taylor would be worse off at LT than he is now because he would have been trying to get things down at RT and would have to readjust on the fly. Its like someone asking you if you want $50 today or $5 every day for 20 days. A lot of you would apparently take the $50 today. But the team looked at the bigger picture and kept Taylor working at LT. And look what happened, he came in and played well. The bottom line is that if the team had benched McIntosh for Taylor at any point, they would be WORSE OFF right now than they actually are. Because they handled things well, hopefully we will get through Alberts injury with as little damage as possible. Instead of the days when we had a scrub like Jordan Black filling in for Willie Roaf, the team is actually being smart about their backup at one of the most important positions on the team. And people here want to criticize them for it! Its amazing.
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09-30-2008, 01:35 PM	#20
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09-30-2008, 01:38 PM	#22
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4808036	AND I guarantee Taylor would be more ready to switch over to left if he'd been playing RT than if he'd been sitting on the ****in bench.
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