New Song (By Me)

[Molitoth]

I've had a few fans of my previous work, so I am posting my latest track here for my beloved friends of ChiefsPlanet.

Over the past few years I've attempted to become better at Audio Engineering without training, as well as music writing and vocals by the method of trial and error as well as constructive criticism. While I still have a long way to go, I am going to continue to get better. These are being done in my basement.

I understand the majority of CP will not be into the style of music my band provokes, but any fan we gain is a great fan to have!

Thanks for your ears. If you enjoy what you hear, like us on facebook and come see us live!
facebook.com/sivuhlaudio


Here:

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by ZepSinger

Nice feel- I like the guitar delay, pretty much the signature hook for me. Do you record in a home studio?

Thanks! Yeah, Justins delay's are fun on the ears. Yeah, I have a dinky little home studio.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

awesome stuff.
i downloaded all three tracks, IMO its as good as any thing out there today man.

Much love! Try downloading Esdraelon again and see if you like this version a little better than the first.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Much love! Try downloading Esdraelon again and see if you like this version a little better than the first.

just saw this, will download it.
i love the first one.

tell you right now, when this gets released nationally, you've sold me a copy.
i'll buy it for sure.

[Molitoth]

tell you right now, when this gets released nationally, you've sold me a copy.

Hah nationally! I can barely get anyone to listen to it... =P

[Molitoth]

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[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Nice! Along with Deftones and Chevelle, it reminded me a bit of 30 Seconds to Mars for some reason.

CP is just chock full of musicians. Molitoth, InChiefsHell, and I think it was Headsnap that was in a band called 9 Volt Revolt? There was a song called Disconnected they did that I really liked.

Good work, M. Keep it up.

This. As I listened, I thought you all sounded like Deftones, Chevelle, and 30 Seconds to Mars. Not a bad group to emulate at all.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Hah nationally! I can barely get anyone to listen to it... =P

then, we need more BoneKrusher's.

[Gadzooks]

It reminds me of the Northern Pikes mixed with the Deftones vocalist in a somber mood:
Here's the Northern Pikes song, (on Canada Day fittingly...)

The song is very well produced but the fact that it's +5 mins is pretentious. (The Northern Pikes song is under 4 mins and I doubt you would sit through the whole thing)
The melody is very familiar. That either means it was lifted or you've hit on somthing that's never been done before, (unlikely).
I suggest that you rearrange it to cut out the fat, and add a climax at the 3 minute mark with a gradual, yet brief, tail off.
I have many more suggestions but you will have to hire me at a rate of 11% of any of your future earnings.

[IratePrimate]

Definitely liked the first song better, but both songs are good. As others have said i hear deftones with some chevelle sprinkled in.

[Molitoth]

Gadzooks,

Thanks for listening! I love hearing people's different takes that bring up discussions!

Thanks for the compliment on the production. For my second song, I think I did a decent job on it. I hope to continually get better, especially at vocal quality.

Justin and I listened to the Northern Pikes song (something we've never heard of before).
The only thing I noticed about the track that I could find similar was the guitar delay. As you know, delay just comes from a pedal, which many guitarists use... so stumbling across a tone that sounds similar this day and age is bound to happen. You can find the same similar style when listening to Tool, Rishloo, Karnivool, and other prog rock bands. (These are more along the lines of our influence)

That either means it was lifted or you've hit on something that's never been done before, (unlikely).

Blatantly stealing riffs is a no-no. I doubt any bands really do it on purpose, and if that was the case, they are lame. As far as hitting on something that has never been done before... We just play whatever comes out of our instruments that sounds cool to us. I doubt we (and 99% of all bands) ever do something that hasn't been done before. Typically when something hasn't been done before, its when different genres of music are blended. We are all typical prog rock fans, so we pretty much stick to that genre.

[Ming the Merciless]

The guitarist's style reminds me of The Edge..and then a little darker feel like Tool....I'm not in to prog much but actually I liked all the songs...

Keep of the good work and best of luck.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I liked all the songs...

Keep of the good work and best of luck.

this

[hometeam]

Not bad really, and im pretty picky. The vocals get a bit drowned out by how busy everything else is.

Sounds a little TOOL-ish

[Munson]

Not my preferred style of music, but I will say that it seems to be pretty well put together.

Originally Posted by hometeam

Not bad really, and im pretty picky. The vocals get a bit drowned out by how busy everything else is.

Sounds a little TOOL-ish

I agree. The vocals could use a volume boost. Its hard to tell what the singer is saying most of the time.

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Gadzooks,

Thanks for listening! I love hearing people's different takes that bring up discussions!

Thanks for the compliment on the production. For my second song, I think I did a decent job on it. I hope to continually get better, especially at vocal quality.

Justin and I listened to the Northern Pikes song (something we've never heard of before).
The only thing I noticed about the track that I could find similar was the guitar delay. As you know, delay just comes from a pedal, which many guitarists use... so stumbling across a tone that sounds similar this day and age is bound to happen. You can find the same similar style when listening to Tool, Rishloo, Karnivool, and other prog rock bands. (These are more along the lines of our influence)


Blatantly stealing riffs is a no-no. I doubt any bands really do it on purpose, and if that was the case, they are lame. As far as hitting on something that has never been done before... We just play whatever comes out of our instruments that sounds cool to us. I doubt we (and 99% of all bands) ever do something that hasn't been done before. Typically when something hasn't been done before, its when different genres of music are blended. We are all typical prog rock fans, so we pretty much stick to that genre.

First of all, Thanks for taking the time to listen to the example and attempt to analyze my point. I’m not sure how serious you guys are about the band but I think you have the potential to make money through the limited remaining resources, (i.e. Publishing, Internet Sales, touring etc…), although, this kind of output is not going to cut it.

I'm very familiar with the bands mentioned above. I was the lead guitarist and main songwriter for a touring act in the 90's that gained prominent interest from the major labels and the larger independents.
At the time, most of the A & R people were asking us to change to a metal/rap vibe before they would sign us, (Limp Bizkit, and RATM were popular at the time), and we told them to go **** themselves. The other offers were just shitty deals, (At least we knew the difference, and many poor suckers didn’t).

I referred to the Northern Pikes song to point out that the song is basically a dirge. The song is missing the dynamics of what I think you're looking for. There are several opportunities in the song to move to something that will captivate the listener but, rather than picking it up, you go softer. If you look at it from this perspective rather than the guitar effects you might solve my riddle.
If the idea was to have a solid Funeral March you’ve done a very good job. If the idea was to write a song that would captivate the listener… Meh.

Every band has their slower pieces. Most of the smarter ones find an opportunity to use dynamics to keep the listener interested. (BTW- If I were you, I would never play this song live unless you want to wake up the audience when it’s over).

I don’t mean to be harsh, and as I said I don’t know how seriously you or your band are taking this. I’m just being realistic. You guys obviously have talent but I know it’s hard, when you’re in a band, to be completely objective. If you guys are willing to take constructive criticism and work on it, I think you could have a bright future.