What would be your perfect scenario to beef up the defense?

[LaChapelle]

...let's just say they don't dump Cassel in the off season

[Mecca]

Think we're picking ahead of the Rams? If not that's probably where Baldwins worse case scenario is.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What's with all this wanting to draft a QB in the first round? The Chiefs will be drafting in the 15-20 range most likely. What the hell QB are you going to take that earlier? Luck and Locker wont be on the board. Are you seriously going to use that pick on Ponder?

You never know. Aaron Rodgers was picked at 23. If we're in the 15-20 range and a QB is sitting there at 10 I'm moving up. Without a QB you have to turn your defense into the 2000 Ravens in order to win a Super Bowl.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

You never know. Aaron Rodgers was picked at 23. If we're in the 15-20 range and a QB is sitting there at 10 I'm moving up. Without a QB you have to turn your defense into the 2000 Ravens in order to win a Super Bowl.

There's no point in picking a QB that early. Cassel will be here. As much as I dont want him to be here he's going to be here. I dont see the Chiefs picking a QB til atleast round 3.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I actually think we may have a worse record next year than this year just because of the schedule difference.

My hope is that we pick up a burner WR, a NT, and a pass rusher from this draft. Hopefully we'll finally be willing to address the QB in 2012 in what should be a tremendous draft class for that position.

I'm not of the belief that we need a Johnny Baldwin or AJ Green, although I would love to pick one if they were there.

The secondary just needs time.

We need another starting caliber pass rusher alongside Hali, because Studebaker is not the answer and who knows about Sheffield's future at all.

Needs (not in order)

1: QB
2: Secondary Pass Rusher
3: Deep Threat
4: NT
5: C
6: Rotational linebackers

[Mecca]

So Hamas is looking at guys like Ronald Johnson for WR.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I want no part of Jake Plummer Locker in the first round.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by jd1020

There's no point in picking a QB that early. Cassel will be here. As much as I dont want him to be here he's going to be here. I dont see the Chiefs picking a QB til atleast round 3.

There is very much a point to picking a QB that early. 50+% of Super Bowl winning QB's are drafted in the first round. Guys that can carry the team on their back. Guys that you build the team upon, not build your scheme around.

Without a QB you've got nothing.

I doubt KC drafts one in the first round either, but I am sick and tired of watching a guy that Pete Carroll was smart enough to not let see the field in college get protected, schemed and stated up to pretend as if he's a guy that can carry a team.

Keep him and you've got to build the 2000 Ravens defense and you might get one shot at a title. Draft a QB and you might have a guy that takes you to the playoffs 10 years in a row, and wins you multiple Super Bowls regardless of who he's throwing to, handing off to, or is blocking for him.

I'm tired of losing, I'm don't remember the last time KC won a playoff game. I may have watched it, but I was 14 and it was 1993. We've had the best defense in the league, and we've had the best offense in the league, yet we still haven't won a playoff game. We've had the best pass rusher, the best D line, the best O line, the best TE, the best rushing attack, pretty much the best anything you can name but QB. All have led to no playoff wins.

YET, the team with the best QB's seem to make the playoffs every year paired with crap defenses, crap o lines, crap WR corps, crap RB's.

I know I'm wasting my breath, too many folks in KC have bought that you can build around a QB and win and ignore the evidence that you have to build upon the QB.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So Hamas is looking at guys like Ronald Johnson for WR.

It's a super-top heavy class. Not a lot of burners, but a lot of really solid types. He'd be somewhat redundant, but I really like Leonard Hankerson as well.

Watch us draft Szczur.

[jd1020]

Unless Luck is on the board around pick 10, +/-3, there is no way in hell the Chiefs are going to trade up to get Locker. And there is no way in hell you use a 15-20 pick on Ponder. Cassel is going to be the QB next year. Even though he is not going to get us anywhere close to a SB the Chiefs have far worse positions to fill. They will pick for those positions and draft a backup for Cassel.

[pr_capone]

I'd like to see Arenas take over at CB2 and Carr demoted to Nickle.

Yeah, Arenas isn't any better than Carr. Carr is just not getting any better. Arenas can play at least to the level that Carr is now. Get the young buck experience at the position and see if he can earn it in a season where there are no aspirations of a Super Bowl run.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Unless Luck is on the board around pick 10, +/-3, there is no way in hell the Chiefs are going to trade up to get Locker. And there is no way in hell you use a 15-20 pick on Ponder. Cassel is going to be the QB next year. Even though he is not going to get us anywhere close to a SB the Chiefs have far worse positions to fill. They will pick for those positions and draft a backup for Cassel.

If there's any hope it's that Pioli was a cheapskate in New England. I would hope that when evaluating the roster bonus payout that he hasn't changed his way--paying based on performance.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If there's any hope it's that Pioli was a cheapskate in New England. I would hope that when evaluating the roster bonus payout that he hasn't changed his way--paying based on performance.

Ya... I was thinking that same way until Cassel padded his stats against Denver. The Chiefs have no QB if they let Cassel walk. That leaves too much to be desired at 1 position when you need help across the board.

[Reaper16]

In defense of Julio Jones, the guy throwing him the ball at Alabama is essentially Matt Cassel.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Needs (not in order)

1: QB
2: Secondary Pass Rusher
3: Deep Threat
4: NT
5: C
6: Rotational linebackers

I think we seriously need to look at another OG as well... I wouldn't cry over a RT either.

[BossChief]

defensive needs in order of importance IMO:

1) NT
2) LOLB
3) Linebacker depth

Offensive needs in order of importance IMO:

1) QB
2) #1 receiver
3) Center
4) RT

Overall need in order of importance IMO:

1) QB This team isnt gonna go anywhere until this is fixed and I would almost go full Mike Ditka and trade the whole draft to move up to get Luck if he declares.

2) NT The most important position in the 3-4 defense and if this defense is gonna take the next step, it needs to be bale to stop the run without blitzing much and if we are gonna do that, Ron Edwards is a depth player.

3) #1 WR with consistent hands and enough speed to keep corners on their heels and make the deep comebacks, curls and slants deadly. I think Baldwin would be a great fit.

4) LOLB I still think Studebaker is gonna be a good player or else this would be a lot higher on this list because I think that a good player there would really elevate this defenses effectiveness. If we had a guy like Woodley at LOLB, this defense could be a top 8 unit IMO.

5) Center Preferably a player with the fire and mental strength of Weigman, but with a bigger frame.

6) Linebacker depth The starters are solid on this squad IMO (except for brokedick) and as I have mentioned over and over, Studebaker can be a player...but past the best 4 linebackers on this team, we are really lacking. We need depth at all four linebacker spots.

7)Running back Some of you may think I am crazy by listing this here over right tackle or a couple other needs, but Thomas Jones isnt gonna play forever and Charles inst a guy that can handle a huge load for the long term and even though I like Battle, I dont think he is a long term guy either. We could use a young Thomas Jones type back.

8) Right tackle Barry is doing alright, but he got pulled for Ryan Ocal in the last game and IMO neither are a long term answer for a superbowl quality team. This is an area that I wouldnt be totally opposed to using a second or third rounder on.