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**Iowanian** · 10-05-2011, 02:30 PM

How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?

Deberg_1990 · 11-02-2011, 08:02 AM

its also now mentioned that baby Lisa's uncle stayed there all night. I dont remember that being said before?

heres an obviously biased writeup about all this....but its funny IMO.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/11...-dated-jersey/

Just when you thought the Lisa Irwin case couldn’t get anymore muddled…the sun rises again. Apparently every time it does that, this case gets more gimped up. So let’s start with Version 6.0 as provided to The Kansas City Star by “a source” who is “familiar with the family’s recollections”…for what that’s worth. Recollections, I might add, that they didn’t bother sharing during the media blitz of the first couple of weeks of Lisa’s case.

Jeremy, as we’ve already heard, worked a night job on October 3rd for the first time. The source states Jeremy came home from his day job about 2:30 pm, stayed long enough to eat dinner and play with the kids, and then went to the night job at a Starbucks. While he was at home before the night job, as confirmed by store surveillance video, Deborah and her brother went to the store and bought a box of wine and a handful of baby needs.

Once Jeremy went to work Deborah set about the tough task of beating that box to nothing but a plastic-lined piece of cardboard. According to the source, Deborah drank between 5 and 10 glasses of wine with her neighbor, Samantha Brando. In fact, she must have been hitting the box hard enough that Samantha had to go to the store and get her own liquor…because a box of wine between two gals on the porch, smoking cigarettes and letting four kids run wild, just isn’t enough!

The source states that Deborah put Lisa in her crib at 6:40 pm, and polished off the box of wine about 10:30 pm. She then told Samantha she was going to bed and she was just too hammered to remember if she even checked on Lisa. HOWEVER, she’s not too hammered to throw into her recollections, according to “the source”, that the door to Lisa’s bedroom WAS closed when she staggered to bed. I’m not sure how you remember the door is closed and not remember if you checked on the baby, but okay then!

This source claims in Version 6.0 that the boys fells asleep with Deborah. Apparently she remembers that part as well. However, that is contrary to one of the earlier versions where Deborah claimed that one of the boys had a nightmare and came and wanted to sleep with her.

Jeremy got home and found the lights on, the door unlocked and the computer room window open. The source relays that Jeremy tried to close the window but couldn’t because it was malfunctioning. In an earlier version it was because the screen was pushed in a bit. He didn’t check on Lisa (contrary to Versions 1.0 and 2.0), checked on the boys and only one was asleep in the top bunk of their bedroom. Please note that in Version 6.0 instead of a boy having a nightmare in his own room and coming to Deborah’s room, we now have a boy getting out of the master bed and going back to sleep in his own room.

There’s literally kids wandering all over this house.

Then, in Version 6.0, Jeremy DOESN’T check on Lisa before going to the master bedroom (which contradicts all of the first 4 Versions, but does match Version 5.0 ), chats it up a bit with wino Debbie, and then HE realizes he didn’t check on Lisa and goes to check her, comes back to the bedroom and asks Debbie where Lisa is. This, of course, contradicts Version 5.0 in which Jeremy states he went to the master bedroom, chatted it up with Debbie, asked why the door was unlocked, window open and lights on and then Debbie jumped out of bed (for no apparent reason) and started freaking out about where Lisa was, which led to Jeremy going to her crib and finding her missing. I just about knew they wouldn’t stick with that version, because…well, you can see the implications.

Then Version 6.0 states Irwin (I assume Jeremy…that’s if you go with Version 1.0 where Deborah didn’t leave the house when Jeremy went looking for Lisa) went next door to Samantha’s house and banged on the door and asked if the baby was with her. According to the source Samantha asked why in blue blazes the baby would be at her house?…which is a real good question…until you factor in Jeremy apparently came home to a slobbering, passed out drunk that probably didn’t do as good a job answering his questions as one would hope.

But wait! We haven’t even gotten to the bombshell….the uncle was at the house all evening. Yep, yesterday Deborah’s brother agreed to speak with investigators. Detectives were seen leaving the house that the Irwins WERE staying in (prior to them doing their bizarre convoy to a secret hidey-hole routine) with the maternal uncle of Lisa. We now learn he was with Bradley all evening, he attests to the fact she got shit-faced and passed out drunk. But get a load of this cannoli, HE WAS THERE AT THE HOUSE WHEN JEREMY GOT HOME. Yep, in all these interviews that the parents have given, not once was it mentioned that Debbie’s brother spent the night at the house.

But that’s not the only bombshell to hit this case in the past couple of days. Remember Megan Wright, the magenta-haired woman who has been interviewed by investigators four times because her cell phone was called by one of the Irwin cell phones on the night Lisa disappeared? You know, one of those cell phones that Debbie told us wouldn’t call out? Megan states she doesn’t know the Irwins. But guess who she does know?

That’s right…your local drunk and neighborhood wanderer…Jersey, a.k.a. John Tanko. Tanko is still sitting in jail on an unrelated charge of tampering with a vehicle, but KCPD states they have investigated him in connection with Lisa’s disappearance, he fully cooperated, and they (KCPD) have “moved on”. I sure hope that’s a thorough investigation because what are the odds of Megan Wright, the recipient of a phone call from allegedly stolen cell phones, being the ex-girlfriend of a guy who was the only extra-familial person of interest for a bit?

And now we know why Megan’s been interviewed so many times. Detectives first tracked her down because of her former relationship with Jersey! I’m assuming Megan is the girlfriend that was previously stated to live in a nearby house (remember the yellow-haired dude who said Tanko’s girlfriend lived in his rental house? ) Anywho, they first questioned her about Tanko. Then investigators had to come back and question her more because lo and behold it was her cell phone number that was called from one of the Irwin phones!

*begin Twilight Zone music*

There appears to be, at this time, some confusion on the time of the call to Megan’s phone. Some reports are now stating it was 8:30 pm. That doesn’t really make too much sense unless Deborah and Samantha and Uncle-whoever wanted to claim an intruder entered the house and stole the phones (and I guess Lisa) while at least two of them were sitting on the front porch smoking cigarettes and banging down a box of wine.

Did I mention that when they found Jersey he had shaved his head? Interesting considering some of the multiple sightings of a man carrying a baby in the wee hours of a chilly October morning report the man was bald.

I guess I should cover a little bookkeeping matter that makes not one iota of difference in finding baby Lisa. Cyndy Short – out; John Picerno – in as new local attorney. Benefactor paying for all this lawyering-up, described as “prestigious”. Jeremy and Debbie??? they seem to have already started their own reality TV program. It began with GMA following the Irwins’ two small boys around as they trick or treated. Apparently it’s not bad enough to lose your baby on a night you drank so much you can’t remember when your body hit the bed, you also need to exploit the two brothers who are undoubtedly still worried about where their little sister is.

And with that, I’ll point out…we’re at a month and still no baby Lisa….she just missed her first Halloween.

Coogs · 11-02-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

its also now mentioned that baby Lisa's uncle stayed there all night. I dont remember that being said before?

heres on obviously biased writeup about all this....but its funny IMO.

This story just gets whackier by the day!

ForeverChiefs58 · 11-02-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

new info..

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) - A woman says investigators have questioned her four times about a cell phone call made from one of Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin's cell phones just a few hours before they reported their daughter missing.

Megan Wright told CNN Monday that the telephone call came in between 8 p.m. and 8:30 p.m. Oct. 3.

A friend from KC told me yesterday when the police first arrived at the house the baby's mom had a phone number written on the palm of her hand. That number also ended up being the same number called on the phone belonging to Megan Wright.

Wierd because her story is just as strange, living in a house with 8 adults all sharing a cell phone. Sounds like a housing situation of sex offenders. Crazy story.

ForeverChiefs58 · 11-02-2011, 08:44 AM

Heard the mom's brother went in yesterday for questioning. hmmmm

**bevischief** · 11-02-2011, 08:59 AM

This sounds like a episode of the Twlight Zone.

DMAC · 11-02-2011, 09:00 AM

Sounds like Jersey came over in the wee hours to **** Irwin. Fight ensued, Jersey takes baby and cell phones and calls his ex.

Mom knows it was him but cant say anything cause then Jeremy knows his wife was ****in some guy named Jersey.

Baby whereabouts unknown.

**Iowanian** · 11-02-2011, 09:01 AM

funny business abounds.

If nothing else, Child neglect seems to be an issue.

Hays · 11-02-2011, 09:15 AM

I think DMAC has it figured out.

ReynardMuldrake · 11-02-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC

Sounds like Jersey came over in the wee hours to **** Irwin. Fight ensued, Jersey takes baby and cell phones and calls his ex.

Mom knows it was him but cant say anything cause then Jeremy knows his wife was ****in some guy named Jersey.

Baby whereabouts unknown.

If that's true, she does not deserve custody of that kid. A parent putting her own needs before her child's welfare like that is disgusting.

DMAC · 11-02-2011, 09:22 AM

Perhaps Jersey is the babys real dad!

**The Franchise** · 11-02-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

If that's true, she does not deserve custody of that kid. A parent putting her own needs before her child's welfare like that is disgusting.

She's not going to have custody of that kid. There is a slim chance that she's still alive.

4th and Long · 11-02-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hays

I think DMAC has it figured out.

I could have sworn I heard on the news last night that "Jersey" was in jail on unrelated charges. He had been interviewed by the polica and is no longer considered a person of interest.

Deberg_1990 · 11-02-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

I could have sworn I heard on the news last night that "Jersey" was in jail on unrelated charges. He had been interviewed by the polica and is no longer considered a person of interest.

you are correct sir.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/11...-dated-jersey/

That’s right…your local drunk and neighborhood wanderer…Jersey, a.k.a. John Tanko. Tanko is still sitting in jail on an unrelated charge of tampering with a vehicle, but KCPD states they have investigated him in connection with Lisa’s disappearance, he fully cooperated, and they (KCPD) have “moved on”. I sure hope that’s a thorough investigation because what are the odds of Megan Wright, the recipient of a phone call from allegedly stolen cell phones, being the ex-girlfriend of a guy who was the only extra-familial person of interest for a bit?

DMAC · 11-02-2011, 10:10 AM

I read that as he is in jail NOW, but wasn't then.

**Iowanian** · 11-02-2011, 10:16 AM

Early on, the husband made a comment about "could be someone cheating on their husband" or alluded to that and she gave him the "shut up" look in an interview.

It would make sense if she were hosing some dude while he was at work, that she'd conveniently be "too drunk to recall" what she did.

If the brother was there, it's kind of funny that is just now leaking out.

It's also possible that the brother was banging one of the skanks at the crack house and used her phone.

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	its also now mentioned that baby Lisa's uncle stayed there all night. I dont remember that being said before? heres an obviously biased writeup about all this....but its funny IMO. http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/11...-dated-jersey/ Just when you thought the Lisa Irwin case couldn’t get anymore muddled…the sun rises again. Apparently every time it does that, this case gets more gimped up. So let’s start with Version 6.0 as provided to The Kansas City Star by “a source” who is “familiar with the family’s recollections”…for what that’s worth. Recollections, I might add, that they didn’t bother sharing during the media blitz of the first couple of weeks of Lisa’s case. Jeremy, as we’ve already heard, worked a night job on October 3rd for the first time. The source states Jeremy came home from his day job about 2:30 pm, stayed long enough to eat dinner and play with the kids, and then went to the night job at a Starbucks. While he was at home before the night job, as confirmed by store surveillance video, Deborah and her brother went to the store and bought a box of wine and a handful of baby needs. Once Jeremy went to work Deborah set about the tough task of beating that box to nothing but a plastic-lined piece of cardboard. According to the source, Deborah drank between 5 and 10 glasses of wine with her neighbor, Samantha Brando. In fact, she must have been hitting the box hard enough that Samantha had to go to the store and get her own liquor…because a box of wine between two gals on the porch, smoking cigarettes and letting four kids run wild, just isn’t enough! The source states that Deborah put Lisa in her crib at 6:40 pm, and polished off the box of wine about 10:30 pm. She then told Samantha she was going to bed and she was just too hammered to remember if she even checked on Lisa. HOWEVER, she’s not too hammered to throw into her recollections, according to “the source”, that the door to Lisa’s bedroom WAS closed when she staggered to bed. I’m not sure how you remember the door is closed and not remember if you checked on the baby, but okay then! This source claims in Version 6.0 that the boys fells asleep with Deborah. Apparently she remembers that part as well. However, that is contrary to one of the earlier versions where Deborah claimed that one of the boys had a nightmare and came and wanted to sleep with her. Jeremy got home and found the lights on, the door unlocked and the computer room window open. The source relays that Jeremy tried to close the window but couldn’t because it was malfunctioning. In an earlier version it was because the screen was pushed in a bit. He didn’t check on Lisa (contrary to Versions 1.0 and 2.0), checked on the boys and only one was asleep in the top bunk of their bedroom. Please note that in Version 6.0 instead of a boy having a nightmare in his own room and coming to Deborah’s room, we now have a boy getting out of the master bed and going back to sleep in his own room. There’s literally kids wandering all over this house. Then, in Version 6.0, Jeremy DOESN’T check on Lisa before going to the master bedroom (which contradicts all of the first 4 Versions, but does match Version 5.0 ), chats it up a bit with wino Debbie, and then HE realizes he didn’t check on Lisa and goes to check her, comes back to the bedroom and asks Debbie where Lisa is. This, of course, contradicts Version 5.0 in which Jeremy states he went to the master bedroom, chatted it up with Debbie, asked why the door was unlocked, window open and lights on and then Debbie jumped out of bed (for no apparent reason) and started freaking out about where Lisa was, which led to Jeremy going to her crib and finding her missing. I just about knew they wouldn’t stick with that version, because…well, you can see the implications. Then Version 6.0 states Irwin (I assume Jeremy…that’s if you go with Version 1.0 where Deborah didn’t leave the house when Jeremy went looking for Lisa) went next door to Samantha’s house and banged on the door and asked if the baby was with her. According to the source Samantha asked why in blue blazes the baby would be at her house?…which is a real good question…until you factor in Jeremy apparently came home to a slobbering, passed out drunk that probably didn’t do as good a job answering his questions as one would hope. But wait! We haven’t even gotten to the bombshell….the uncle was at the house all evening. Yep, yesterday Deborah’s brother agreed to speak with investigators. Detectives were seen leaving the house that the Irwins WERE staying in (prior to them doing their bizarre convoy to a secret hidey-hole routine) with the maternal uncle of Lisa. We now learn he was with Bradley all evening, he attests to the fact she got shit-faced and passed out drunk. But get a load of this cannoli, HE WAS THERE AT THE HOUSE WHEN JEREMY GOT HOME. Yep, in all these interviews that the parents have given, not once was it mentioned that Debbie’s brother spent the night at the house. But that’s not the only bombshell to hit this case in the past couple of days. Remember Megan Wright, the magenta-haired woman who has been interviewed by investigators four times because her cell phone was called by one of the Irwin cell phones on the night Lisa disappeared? You know, one of those cell phones that Debbie told us wouldn’t call out? Megan states she doesn’t know the Irwins. But guess who she does know? That’s right…your local drunk and neighborhood wanderer…Jersey, a.k.a. John Tanko. Tanko is still sitting in jail on an unrelated charge of tampering with a vehicle, but KCPD states they have investigated him in connection with Lisa’s disappearance, he fully cooperated, and they (KCPD) have “moved on”. I sure hope that’s a thorough investigation because what are the odds of Megan Wright, the recipient of a phone call from allegedly stolen cell phones, being the ex-girlfriend of a guy who was the only extra-familial person of interest for a bit? And now we know why Megan’s been interviewed so many times. Detectives first tracked her down because of her former relationship with Jersey! I’m assuming Megan is the girlfriend that was previously stated to live in a nearby house (remember the yellow-haired dude who said Tanko’s girlfriend lived in his rental house? ) Anywho, they first questioned her about Tanko. Then investigators had to come back and question her more because lo and behold it was her cell phone number that was called from one of the Irwin phones! begin Twilight Zone music There appears to be, at this time, some confusion on the time of the call to Megan’s phone. Some reports are now stating it was 8:30 pm. That doesn’t really make too much sense unless Deborah and Samantha and Uncle-whoever wanted to claim an intruder entered the house and stole the phones (and I guess Lisa) while at least two of them were sitting on the front porch smoking cigarettes and banging down a box of wine. Did I mention that when they found Jersey he had shaved his head? Interesting considering some of the multiple sightings of a man carrying a baby in the wee hours of a chilly October morning report the man was bald. I guess I should cover a little bookkeeping matter that makes not one iota of difference in finding baby Lisa. Cyndy Short – out; John Picerno – in as new local attorney. Benefactor paying for all this lawyering-up, described as “prestigious”. Jeremy and Debbie??? they seem to have already started their own reality TV program. It began with GMA following the Irwins’ two small boys around as they trick or treated. Apparently it’s not bad enough to lose your baby on a night you drank so much you can’t remember when your body hit the bed, you also need to exploit the two brothers who are undoubtedly still worried about where their little sister is. And with that, I’ll point out…we’re at a month and still no baby Lisa….she just missed her first Halloween. Last edited by Deberg_1990; 11-02-2011 at 08:43 AM..
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Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4758454	Early on, the husband made a comment about "could be someone cheating on their husband" or alluded to that and she gave him the "shut up" look in an interview. It would make sense if she were hosing some dude while he was at work, that she'd conveniently be "too drunk to recall" what she did. If the brother was there, it's kind of funny that is just now leaking out. It's also possible that the brother was banging one of the skanks at the crack house and used her phone.
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