Chiefs Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense - Page 13

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think this is anything we didn't know. With this defense, put a top 15 ish offense on the field that can score 23 ppg and average a few more good drives per game and were unbeatable.

But it needs to happen quick

Why does it need to happen "quick"?

The Texans offense is awful and the Browns and Bills aren't much better, if better at all.

Are people actually worried that the Chiefs might lose a game or four?

**Mav** · 10-17-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why does it need to happen "quick"?

The Texans offense is awful and the Browns and Bills aren't much better, if better at all.

Are people actually worried that the Chiefs might lose a game or four?

The oline and play makers are better.

But, the qbs are about the same. Brandon Weeden is down right pitiful.

**Mav** · 10-17-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So in other words, 40% of our offensive points are coming on drives that started on the opponent's side of the field.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm more worried that we're only scoring on 32% of our drives.

Both of these have to be rectified. I wont say immediately, but they should be getting progressively better, not worse.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-17-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

The oline and play makers are better.

But, the qbs are about the same. Brandon Weeden is down right pitiful.

I still can't believe you said the Brownies win 11 plus with Hoyer

**Mav** · 10-17-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I still can't believe you said the Brownies win 11 plus with Hoyer

They were 3-0 in games he started. I believe I said that if he had started the season too.

I believe they could of won 8, or 9 with him.

It wasn't that far fetched. Their defense is very good, a little bit below the Chiefs, cause the secondary isn't as good, and their offense with Hoyer was better than the Chiefs currently. It wasn't that far fetched.

Now? The browns win 6 games, and ill be stunned.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

The oline and play makers are better.

But, the qbs are about the same. Brandon Weeden is down right pitiful.

And the game is at Arrowhead, which definitely helps

**Mav** · 10-17-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And the game is at Arrowhead, which definitely helps

Definitely pulling for the Chiefs.

If POE, Houston, Hali, DeVito wanna have a 53 car pile up on Brandon older than dirt mcgirt Weeden, that's fine by me.

keg in kc · 10-17-2013, 05:36 PM

td; dr

44 drives starting inside our own 35

5 last 5 minutes or more
7 end in scores (5 TD, 2 FG)
7 cover 50 yards or more
23 last 3 minutes or less
26 cover 25 yards or less
32 end in punts or turnovers
33 include 2 first downs or less

Marcellus · 10-17-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

td; dr

44 drives starting inside our own 35

5 last 5 minutes or more
7 end in scores (5 TD, 2 FG)
7 cover 50 yards or more
23 last 3 minutes or less
26 cover 25 yards or less
32 end in punts or turnovers
33 include 2 first downs or less

44 drives, 9 of them 3 and outs. 20%.

Did you even read the stats you posted?

We need to score more I dont dispute that but we usually move the ball and at the worst end up screwing the other team in field position which our defense then turns into a field position advantage for us.

Yes we need to improve, yes Smith needs to play better along with the OL and WR.

I think our biggest issue has been stalled drives due to penalties and negative plays. We seem to move the ball reasonably well, not great but reasonably well, and then stall out.

I dont think its the dumpster fire its being made out to be.

milkman · 10-17-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

44 drives, 9 of them 3 and outs. 20%.

Did you even read the stats you posted?

We need to score more I dont dispute that but we usually move the ball and at the worst end up screwing the other team in field position which our defense then turns into a field position advantage for us.

Yes we need to improve, yes Smith needs to play better along with the OL and WR.

I think our biggest issue has been stalled drives due to penalties and negative plays. We seem to move the ball reasonably well, not great but reasonably well, and then stall out.

I dont think its the dumpster fire its being made out to be.

33 of 44 drives include 2 or fewer first downs, and you believe that is moving the ball reasonably well?

Marcellus · 10-17-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

33 of 44 drives include 2 or fewer first downs, and you believe that is moving the ball reasonably well?

Whats the average number of 1st downs per drive in the NFL?

Edit: I looked it up and its interesting. Yea we are bad on yards and points per drive. The defense is making up the difference. We are top 10 in NET yards a drive but thats because the defense ranks so high.

I still think penalties and negative plays are the biggest issue.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestats

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Whats the average number of 1st downs per drive in the NFL?

Dude, you need to stop reaching for reasons to excuse our awful offense.

We are 26th in yards per play, 27th in third down conversions and 28th in net yards gained per pass attempt.

There is no sugar coating this shit show.

keg in kc · 10-17-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Did you even read the stats you posted?

Do you have any capacity at all to limit a discussion to the topic, without throwing in some snotty line about another poster?

As far as the rest of your comment goes, there's no way that I can characterize an offense that ranks 25th in yards per game, 26th in yards per play and 27th in third down percentage as a unit that "usually moves the ball".

(As far as first down frequency goes, I don't have a specific number for that, but as far as number of first downs per game, they're 21st in the league. Despite being 9th in the league in total offensive plays. I would tend to think that indicates a low frequency.)

Marcellus · 10-17-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Do you have any capacity at all to limit a discussion to the topic, without throwing in some snotty line about another poster?

As far as the rest of your comment goes, there's no way that I can characterize an offense that ranks 25th in yards per game, 26th in yards per play and 27th in third down percentage as a unit that "usually moves the ball".

(As far as first down frequency goes, I don't have a specific number for that, but as far as number of first downs per game, they're 21st in the league. Despite being 9th in the league in total offensive plays. I would tend to think that indicates a low frequency.)

We are 16th in 3 and outs. We move the ball then stall. Move the ball then stall. For several reasons.

As I have stated many many times, yes we need to play better on offense but its a number of issues.

And honestly I blame Reid because there are too many issues. OL, QB, play calling, and WR, in that order IMO.

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

We are 16th in 3 and outs. We move the ball then stall. Move the ball then stall. For several reasons.
O.

We don't move the ball.

Yards per play is the defining statistic for offenses.

26th = nope.

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