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Old 10-20-2012, 11:12 AM   #1
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Trademarks aren't about money.

confusion in the market place.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:38 AM   #2
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Trademarks aren't about money. It's not like a patent where people have to pay royalties. Nobody is going to have pay Tebow when they pray, and if you think that's what their attempt was here you're being ignorant.

"Tebowing" has indeed become a national thing that pretty much anybody who follows sports at all knows about. It's become a verb, and it's also become a brand, so to speak. What's the first thing you would think about if you saw a silhouette of a man kneeling and praying like that? Tebowing, right?

Well, that is a powerful thing, and if somebody were to create some sort of a logo out of that silhouette they could do damage to Tebow's brand. The trademark will allow them to legally tell somebody to stop using that mark.

For example, I'm sure Tebow and co. wouldn't like it very much of somebody made a gay porno video called Teblowing and used that silhouette on the cover of their DVD. The trademark would allow them to legally stop that sort of thing from happening because it could cause confusion in the market place.

They wouldn't have to pay him royalties, though. It's completely separate.
And Tebow isn't the first athlete to "Tebow." It's just recognized by him more because of his beliefs and his celebrity. He's making a name for himself and it might lead to money like the Jordan brand. I don't blame him for thinking about how he's gonna make a living off the field potentially.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:03 PM   #3
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Trademarks aren't about money. It's not like a patent where people have to pay royalties. Nobody is going to have pay Tebow when they pray, and if you think that's what their attempt was here you're being ignorant.

"Tebowing" has indeed become a national thing that pretty much anybody who follows sports at all knows about. It's become a verb, and it's also become a brand, so to speak. What's the first thing you would think about if you saw a silhouette of a man kneeling and praying like that? Tebowing, right?

Well, that is a powerful thing, and if somebody were to create some sort of a logo out of that silhouette they could do damage to Tebow's brand. The trademark will allow them to legally tell somebody to stop using that mark.

For example, I'm sure Tebow and co. wouldn't like it very much of somebody made a gay porno video called Teblowing and used that silhouette on the cover of their DVD. The trademark would allow them to legally stop that sort of thing from happening because it could cause confusion in the market place.

They wouldn't have to pay him royalties, though. It's completely separate.


Yeah... damaging to Tebow's "Brand"....

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Old 10-20-2012, 01:05 PM   #4
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Yeah... damaging to Tebow's "Brand"....

Complete ignorance.
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:22 PM   #5
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Complete ignorance.
Ignorance? No.. Just laughing at the fact that you think Tebow has a "Brand" that needs any kind of protection.

It's a ****ing touchdown celebration.

This is the most absurd and pathetic example of intellectual property I've ever heard. Calling it "Intellectual" at all is disgraceful and insulting to the idea....
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:54 PM   #6
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Ignorance? No.. Just laughing at the fact that you think Tebow has a "Brand" that needs any kind of protection.

It's a ****ing touchdown celebration.

This is the most absurd and pathetic example of intellectual property I've ever heard. Calling it "Intellectual" at all is disgraceful and insulting to the idea....
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:54 PM   #7
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Ignorance? No.. Just laughing at the fact that you think Tebow has a "Brand" that needs any kind of protection.

It's a ****ing touchdown celebration.

This is the most absurd and pathetic example of intellectual property I've ever heard. Calling it "Intellectual" at all is disgraceful and insulting to the idea....
Once again, complete ignorance. You obviously know nothing about intellectual property. It's become way more than a simple TD celebration. Other people are actually profiting on it....or at least were. This will give Tebow and co. the ability to protect that. For example, let's say somebody uses the mark and the term to draw attention to a non-profit that he doesn't agree with. This would give them the ability to stop them from using that mark and his name.

The interesting thing here is that they seem to have jumped on this early because they saw that it was quickly becoming a verb. The more common knowledge something is the harder it is for them to trademark. Do you happen to remember the Xerox commercials where they were asking people not to kill their brand by continuing to use the name Xerox as a verb for making a copy?

Tebow's lawyers and managers, etc. all saw this coming and jumped on it early. And they got it passed.

The simple fact that the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office accepted and issued the trademark should tell you that it is a brand with a mark that needs protecting based on IP law.

Before that, all of Tebow's "people" apparently saw it for what it is, too, and knew they should protect it. As such, they filed for a trademark.

I guess we're all wrong and you're right.

It's perfectly logical. You're just allowing the fact that you don't like the kid (and for what? because he gets a lot of attention even though he sucks??) keep you from accepting it for what it is.

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Old 10-20-2012, 04:16 PM   #8
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Trademarks aren't about money. It's not like a patent where people have to pay royalties. Nobody is going to have pay Tebow when they pray, and if you think that's what their attempt was here you're being ignorant.

"Tebowing" has indeed become a national thing that pretty much anybody who follows sports at all knows about. It's become a verb, and it's also become a brand, so to speak. What's the first thing you would think about if you saw a silhouette of a man kneeling and praying like that? Tebowing, right?

Well, that is a powerful thing, and if somebody were to create some sort of a logo out of that silhouette they could do damage to Tebow's brand. The trademark will allow them to legally tell somebody to stop using that mark.

For example, I'm sure Tebow and co. wouldn't like it very much of somebody made a gay porno video called Teblowing and used that silhouette on the cover of their DVD. The trademark would allow them to legally stop that sort of thing from happening because it could cause confusion in the market place.

They wouldn't have to pay him royalties, though. It's completely separate.

I don't think so. Teblowing would be fair game s long as they did not have a picture or tebowes picture. Avengersxxx and batfxxx are perfect examples of porns I mistakenly came across and watched briefly.
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:27 PM   #9
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I don't think so. Teblowing would be fair game s long as they did not have a picture or tebowes picture. Avengersxxx and batfxxx are perfect examples of porns I mistakenly came across and watched briefly.
Yeah, the actual silhouette would be the most protected thing. I haven't seen if they have an official one they're using like the Jordan logo...do they..?? That would be interesting to see if they filed an official one with their trademark application.

It wouldn't stop people in other countries, either, unless they filed apps in those countries that were granted as well.

The fact remains, trademarks are hard to get approved. They have to pass a very specific set of rules in order to be approved. This was approved, and I can see why.

I hate Tebow madness just as much as the rest of you but that doesn't change reality.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:39 PM   #13
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Wow. So Tebow is trademarking how we pray? I guess I better inform my pastor tomorrow that we're only allowed to pray in certain ways and to consult with Tebow before doing so.
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Wow. So Tebow is trademarking how we pray? I guess I better inform my pastor tomorrow that we're only allowed to pray in certain ways and to consult with Tebow before doing so.
Again, that's not how this works. Learn something about IP law before crying over this sort of thing.

I'm not a Tebow fan, but to hate on him for this is completely ignorant.
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