Chiefs Trading for Nick Foles

CoMoChief · 01-20-2013, 06:52 AM

1st order of business if I was Reid would be to cut Cassel and Jackson. Do it whenever it's best financially for the team's cap space...like after June 1st or whenever...I'm not very good at knowing when to cut a guy/how it effects the cap etc. I can never grasp that. Whenever it's the best time to do it, do it and free up $$$ for FA.

If Josh Freeman isn't resigned by the Bucs, then I'd make a strong push for the guy. He has talent, he would be better off in his hometown playing for a team he grew up watching and rooting for, playing with better talent and better coaching. It'd be a good/safe match IMO.

It's stupid to trade for someone who's just going to be a backup...esp anything that's a 5th rd pick or earlier. Trading for Foles IMO would be a stupid move unless it's for like a 6th or 7th draft pick. I doubt Philly would be willing to let go of him for that cheap of a price, but ya never know...Foles may not fit at all in Kelly's system and they may have no use for him.

I'd resign Bowe and Albert and do 1 of 2 things...

If the Chiefs can't trade out of the first overall pick, then I'd select LT Luke Joeckel #1 and move Albert to guard and have the best OL in the NFL. I think Freeman behind a great OL, with Charles in the backfield could do wonders. Then select the best QB available in the 2nd round.

If you can trade down from the 1st overall pick then I'd select QB Tyler Wilson and then pick up some other picks in the 2nd and 3rd rds possibly. Then take Barrett Jones in the 2nd. (Jones could play tackle if he had to) essentially you have 4 guys that can play tackle and 5 possible interior OL. Utility OL are valuable, esp if you have injuries on the Oline, like we had last season.

milkman · 01-20-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

1st order of business if I was Reid would be to cut Cassel and Jackson. Do it whenever it's best financially for the team's cap space...like after June 1st or whenever...I'm not very good at knowing when to cut a guy/how it effects the cap etc. I can never grasp that. Whenever it's the best time to do it, do it and free up $$$ for FA.

If Josh Freeman isn't resigned by the Bucs, then I'd make a strong push for the guy. He has talent, he would be better off in his hometown playing for a team he grew up watching and rooting for, playing with better talent and better coaching. It'd be a good/safe match IMO.

It's stupid to trade for someone who's just going to be a backup...esp anything that's a 5th rd pick or earlier. Trading for Foles IMO would be a stupid move unless it's for like a 6th or 7th draft pick. I doubt Philly would be willing to let go of him for that cheap of a price, but ya never know...Foles may not fit at all in Kelly's system and they may have no use for him.

I'd resign Bowe and Albert and do 1 of 2 things...

If the Chiefs can't trade out of the first overall pick, then I'd select LT Luke Joeckel #1 and move Albert to guard and have the best OL in the NFL. I think Freeman behind a great OL, with Charles in the backfield could do wonders. Then select the best QB available in the 2nd round.

If you can trade down from the 1st overall pick then I'd select QB Tyler Wilson and then pick up some other picks in the 2nd and 3rd rds possibly. Then take Barrett Jones in the 2nd. (Jones could play tackle if he had to) essentially you have 4 guys that can play tackle and 5 possible interior OL. Utility OL are valuable, esp if you have injuries on the Oline, like we had last season.

Only moron would use the #1 pick overall to upgrade guard.

And you continue to display your moronacy every time you post.

CoMoChief · 01-20-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Only moron would use the #1 pick overall to upgrade guard.

And you continue to display your moronacy every time you post.

You're upgrading both LT and LG dumbass.

milkman · 01-20-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

You're upgrading both LT and LG dumbass.

No you are not.

Branden Albert has only begun to touch his potential, and his ceiling and Joekel's are much the same.

You are replacing a top 10, possibly top 5 LT with a guy who has the potential to be a top 10, possibly top 5 LT, and you are doing with a guy that is probably going to take 3 years to begin to reach his potential.

The only damn spot you are upgrading with that pick is guard.

CoMoChief · 01-20-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No you are not.

Branden Albert has only begun to touch his potential, and his ceiling and Joekel's are much the same.

You are replacing a top 10, possibly top 5 LT with a guy who has the potential to be a top 10, possibly top 5 LT, and you are doing with a guy that is probably going to take 3 years to begin to reach his potential.

The only damn spot you are upgrading with that pick is guard.

Joeckel will be a better LT than Albert, he's also someone that will be able to step in and play very well at a high level immediately. Not to mention if a OT happens to get injured there's some shuffeling we could do and not skip a beat.

Allen and Asamoah makes great depth. They didn't exactly play well last season. Our interior line needs to be upgraded.

Rasputin · 01-20-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Joeckel will be a better LT than Albert, he's also someone that will be able to step in and play very well at a high level immediately. Not to mention if a OT happens to get injured there's some shuffeling we could do and not skip a beat.

Allen and Asamoah makes great depth. They didn't exactly play well last season. Our interior line needs to be upgraded.

We need a QB and Geno Smith will be a stud in the pros. No other pick would help our team more than Geno Smith would. We had the worst scoring offense in the league well that is because of shit QBs in Cassell and Quinn. Jamaal Charles made huge plays running the ball with that offensive line, so it was QB that held us back. Yes our OL needs to improve, but take the best option for a QB first. Then build the team around him. Geno Smith can throw for touchdowns Joeckel cannot.

CoMoChief · 01-20-2013, 08:02 AM

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We need a QB and Geno Smith will be a stud in the pros. No other pick would help our team more than Geno Smith would. We had the worst scoring offense in the league well that is because of shit QBs in Cassell and Quinn. Jamaal Charles made huge plays running the ball with that offensive line, so it was QB that held us back. Yes our OL needs to improve, but take the best option for a QB first. Then build the team around him. Geno Smith can throw for touchdowns Joeckel cannot.

Wilson is a better QB (or will be) than Geno.

milkman · 01-20-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Joeckel will be a better LT than Albert, he's also someone that will be able to step in and play very well at a high level immediately. Not to mention if a OT happens to get injured there's some shuffeling we could do and not skip a beat.

Allen and Asamoah makes great depth. They didn't exactly play well last season. Our interior line needs to be upgraded.

He will be a better LT than Albert?

You mean a better LT than one that only gave up 1 sack to QBs that have absolutely no pocket awareness, that play themselves into sacks?

Better than a guy who was among the best in run blocking?

And do you even watch football?

These OTs coming from spread offenses are taking 3 years to adapt to the NFL game.

Russel Okung was every bit as good a prospect as Joekel, and he just started to play to his potential this year.

That Smith kid the Rams drafted was another highly rated prospect who hasn't adapted, and has landed at the RT spot beacuse he couldn't.

Get a ****ing clue.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-20-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Joeckel will be a better LT than Albert, he's also someone that will be able to step in and play very well at a high level immediately. Not to mention if a OT happens to get injured there's some shuffeling we could do and not skip a beat.

Allen and Asamoah makes great depth. They didn't exactly play well last season. Our interior line needs to be upgraded.

Come on man!

I have to assume you are trolling at this point.

**BigRedChief** · 01-20-2013, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Joeckel will be a better LT than Albert, he's also someone that will be able to step in and play very well at a high level immediately. Not to mention if a OT happens to get injured there's some shuffeling we could do and not skip a beat.

You need to stick to government conspiracy's.

How many sacks did Albert give up last year?

Is Albert a top 5 LT, no. But, he's good enough for us to not waste a out top pick on a LT.

Pay Albert and franchise or pay Bowe a reasonable contract. It's a no brainer.

splatbass · 01-20-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No you are not.

Branden Albert has only begun to touch his potential, and his ceiling and Joekel's are much the same.

You are replacing a top 10, possibly top 5 LT with a guy who has the potential to be a top 10, possibly top 5 LT, and you are doing with a guy that is probably going to take 3 years to begin to reach his potential.

The only damn spot you are upgrading with that pick is guard.

First, I want to make it clear I don't want to do this, I just am curious about the franchise tag and am wondering about this. I do not want to draft LT with #1, so don't flame me.

The franchised player gets the average of the top 5 at his position, right? Hypothetically, if we moved Albert to guard first, then used the franchise tag on him would he get the average of the top 5 guards instead of top 5 LTs?

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-20-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

The franchised player gets the average of the top 5 at his position, right? Hypothetically, if we moved Albert to guard first, then used the franchise tag on him would he get the average of the top 5 guards instead of top 5 LTs?

That would be a mess with the NFLPA and would never fly. He's played LT for 5 seasons. He's a LT. Pay him as such and move on.

milkman · 01-20-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

First, I want to make it clear I don't want to do this, I just am curious about the franchise tag and am wondering about this. I do not want to draft LT with #1, so don't flame me.

The franchised player gets the average of the top 5 at his position, right? Hypothetically, if we moved Albert to guard first, then used the franchise tag on him would he get the average of the top 5 guards instead of top 5 LTs?

I don't believe there's anyway that they can just label him a guard after playing his entire career at LT and get away with that.

**BigRedChief** · 01-20-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't believe there's anyway that they can just label him a guard after playing his entire career at LT and get away with that.

THIS!

I don't understand this Albert bashing. He is a good LT. We have way more pressing needs on our team and even on our OL.

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