Chiefs Surprised this wasn't put up on here-romeos presser - Page 3

**J Diddy** · 10-02-2012, 12:51 AM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...6-165c46ce068e

Funniest moment when a reporter, i assume Gretz, asked Romeo if cassel has been instructed to throw it high. Romeo looked like he wanted to bite peoples faces off

htismaqe · 10-02-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

And yet after only 4 games as head coach he has already talked about benching Cassel and has split the starter reps in practice.

Prior to that, he has openly talked about Orton, Manning, RG3, Tannehill and how "Matt Cassel is the quarterback until we get another quarterback"....he also made it a point to interview every good qb at the combine.

I think the old man is in over his head, but only because Pioli totally ****ed him over.

Or do you think Romeo wanted Quinn over all of those options and Pioli just obliged him?

Cmon man.

I think Romeo is just glad that somebody made him a head coach. He knew he'd have to accept a certain amount of shit to get the job because we can all see with our own 2 eyes that he didn't EARN it.

whoman69 · 10-02-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This is bullshit.

He WILLINGLY ACCEPTED the situation with Cassel.

He's a spineless yes-man.

Wow. He went there.

NJChiefsFan · 10-02-2012, 04:02 PM

Romeo doesn't even care whats going on. I know we always talk extremes and say a coach doesn't care when he does, but does Romeo actually care? Its so weird hearing him talk. He is usually like a sentence away from saying, "I am a puppet and I don't care what happens." It's unreal. He is a puppet, he knows it, he knows the media knows it, and we all know Pioli knows we know. You know?

chiefzilla1501 · 10-02-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

And yet after only 4 games as head coach he has already talked about benching Cassel and has split the starter reps in practice.

Prior to that, he has openly talked about Orton, Manning, RG3, Tannehill and how "Matt Cassel is the quarterback until we get another quarterback"....he also made it a point to interview every good qb at the combine.

I think the old man is in over his head, but only because Pioli totally ****ed him over.

Or do you think Romeo wanted Quinn over all of those options and Pioli just obliged him?

Cmon man.

I agree with you.

I'm not a fan of Romeo. But I doubt he's a guy who mails it in. I sensed from the beginning that he was headstrong about wanting a qb. I think pioli promises his coaches things then does his own thing in the end.

NJChiefsFan · 10-02-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I agree with you.

I'm not a fan of Romeo. But I doubt he's a guy who mails it in. I sensed from the beginning that he was headstrong about wanting a qb. I think pioli promises his coaches things then does his own thing in the end.

It sure sounds like he is mailing it in. He has to realize that Cassel and himself are going to be thrown under the bus by Pioli to protect his job, and more importantly, his reputation.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-02-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Romeo doesn't even care whats going on. I know we always talk extremes and say a coach doesn't care when he does, but does Romeo actually care? Its so weird hearing him talk. He is usually like a sentence away from saying, "I am a puppet and I don't care what happens." It's unreal. He is a puppet, he knows it, he knows the media knows it, and we all know Pioli knows we know. You know?

chiefzilla1501 · 10-02-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

It sure sounds like he is mailing it in. He has to realize that Cassel and himself are going to be thrown under the bus by Pioli to protect his job, and more importantly, his reputation.

Let me rephrase that.

I don't think he's doing that because he doesn't care. I think he's doing that because he's frustrated and handcuffed on a decision he didn't want to make.

FAX · 10-02-2012, 04:12 PM

You know, I think that we sometimes tend to read too much into the things that coaches and GMs say. It's natural, of course, since we are only given sparse tidbits of information and are, therefore, forced to extrapolate on those crumbs.

Let's face it. Roleo took this job because HC is a better job than DC. There's more pay, prestige, a bigger office, and a better retirement package. How things turn out in the end so far as wins and losses are concerned aren't as important to a 65 year-old veteran of the wars compared to a younger man whose competitive spirit is waxing.

Does he care whether or not Cassel is a crap fest of a quarterback? I'm sure he does ... but probably not to the extent that some of us would like to believe.

FAX

htismaqe · 10-02-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Let me rephrase that.

I don't think he's doing that because he doesn't care. I think he's doing that because he's frustrated and handcuffed on a decision he didn't want to make.

He knew coming in he was going to be handcuffed. He's known Pioli for over TWENTY YEARS. He's worked with him before.

To suggest that he was somehow "hoodwinked" by Pioli suggests that Romeo is an idiot, because anybody with 1 eye could see what was coming.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-02-2012, 04:18 PM

You know why Pioli was so successful in NE? Because Bellicheck ultimately made the decisions. He was forced to work with his head coach. Here? No. Results? Speaks for itself.

**Rausch** · 10-02-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I think Romeo is just glad that somebody made him a head coach. He knew he'd have to accept a certain amount of shit to get the job because we can all see with our own 2 eyes that he didn't EARN it.

I think at the end of last year he earned the right to be in consideration for the job.

I think this year has proven he wasn't the right choice...

FAX · 10-02-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

You know why Pioli was so successful in NE? Because Bellicheck ultimately made the decisions. He was forced to work with his head coach. Here? No. Results? Speaks for itself.

The yep train just pulled into this post.

FAX

htismaqe · 10-02-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I think at the end of last year he earned the right to be in consideration for the job.

I think this year has proven he wasn't the right choice...

One could argue that, based on NFL history alone, he was destined to fail and therefore should have never been considered, regardless of merit.

That being said, he deserved to be CONSIDERED. However, we all know that he was the first, and only, choice.

CoMoChief · 10-02-2012, 04:51 PM

Do I think Crennel is the right man for the job? I dunno yet. As much as people wanna jump ship and want Crennel fired, I still think it's too small of a sample size. Yes we've been getting blown out, and some of it may indeed be coaching. People are all of a sudden questioning his scheme and whether it's outdated etc. He's been successful in this league running that defense, and I think it's a bit too early to really say that the game has passed him by. Players play....coaches coach. Romeo can't be faulted for Berry getting raped by Gates all afternoon. Romeo can't be faulted for our DE's getting their shit pushed in.

And that's another problem. This team has done nothing but finger point the last few seasons instead of taking responsibility for their own performances.

He's been given a crappy QB. But he knew that going into the job. He's won w/ shitty QB's before (Anderson) and that was with shitty talent all over. Maybe he thought he could win w/ Cassel as long as there was a good coaching foundation set in place (aka no Haley sticking his dick into the playcalling all the time) and as long as there was lots of talent surrounding him.

He was wrong. As it's been fairly apparant that nothing is going to ever make Cassel better than what he is. Injuries mounted up on the defense and the depth on this defense (especially in the secondary) is less than serviceable (Pioli's fault).

The best thing Romeo can do now is to move on from Cassel. Insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Cassel has done nothing but suck while in KC except for one season where he didn't turn over the ball often because he wasn't really give a chance to. We ran the ball so ****ing much and were good at doing it, all Cassel had to do was take care of the football, which he did exceptionally well that season...which I will give him credit for. Now it was against a bunch of teams that had losing records except for one (which we lost that game). That's not his fault, but it's reality. But other than in 2010, he's been complete dogshit. The best Cassel can do is be just good enough to take care of the ball and put the team in a position to beat the shitty bottom feeders teams of the league.

Need to put in Quinn. Need some sort of change in the status quo because Cassel isn't working and he's turning the ball over. You're not going to win games in the NFL if you turn the ball over all the time, it's that simple. Romeo can't be blamed for Cassel throwing picks left and right and fumbling the football in their own territory. The defense can't be held responsible for giving up points in that situation either.

What it comes down to, is that Romeo (as a HC) has to realize when the team has completely lost faith in what "should be" the leader of the football team on the field (the QB). I think it's pretty obvious that it's a chain reaction that when your QB loses all confidence in his own ability to play the game, the offense as a whole feels that as well, and the down-spiraling of the team as a whole occurs. You can even see it on the sidelines.....Cassel mopes around, almost acts like he doesn't care even. Just goes off into his own little world with a blank stare. Losing is ****ing contagious and people can see it, especially if it's "what's supposed to be" your leader on offense.

Why do you think the great QB's in this league make their entire team play better? It's because other players know they have a ****ing field general that can lead them to victory. Which is exactly the complete opposite of what we have here in KC. Hell even the coach knows it, which is why we went full Herm-tard on offense during that last drive against the Saints. We could have easily had the chance to go for a win, but played it safe and ran the ball to keep it out of Cpt ****up's hands.

You don't have to be a NFL coach, scout, former player, etc. to see that the team has lost complete confidence of Cassel at this point. You could even see the little bit of life that came to our team whenever Orton was playing last season. KYLE ****ING ORTON!!!! And he even sucks in his own right, but at least he can look like a real ****ing QB at times and lead and offense down the field.

Time to put in Quinn. He may suck it up...but to keep Cassel in at this point is just plain insanity...and I think it's at least telling your players that you want to try something different and move on from the failure that he brings to the table. I mean at some point there has to be a change somewhere...and Cassel seems to be the root to the whole problem, and Pioli for sticking w/ Cassel.

htismaqe · 10-02-2012, 04:53 PM

Some of us were never on the ship.

We were standing on the dock, waving goodbye as the Titanic set sail.

**** Romeo Crennel, **** Scott Pioli, and **** the New England Patriots.

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10-02-2012, 04:02 PM	#33
NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $5760423	Romeo doesn't even care whats going on. I know we always talk extremes and say a coach doesn't care when he does, but does Romeo actually care? Its so weird hearing him talk. He is usually like a sentence away from saying, "I am a puppet and I don't care what happens." It's unreal. He is a puppet, he knows it, he knows the media knows it, and we all know Pioli knows we know. You know?
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10-02-2012, 04:12 PM	#38
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	You know, I think that we sometimes tend to read too much into the things that coaches and GMs say. It's natural, of course, since we are only given sparse tidbits of information and are, therefore, forced to extrapolate on those crumbs. Let's face it. Roleo took this job because HC is a better job than DC. There's more pay, prestige, a bigger office, and a better retirement package. How things turn out in the end so far as wins and losses are concerned aren't as important to a 65 year-old veteran of the wars compared to a younger man whose competitive spirit is waxing. Does he care whether or not Cassel is a crap fest of a quarterback? I'm sure he does ... but probably not to the extent that some of us would like to believe. FAX
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10-02-2012, 04:51 PM	#44
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Do I think Crennel is the right man for the job? I dunno yet. As much as people wanna jump ship and want Crennel fired, I still think it's too small of a sample size. Yes we've been getting blown out, and some of it may indeed be coaching. People are all of a sudden questioning his scheme and whether it's outdated etc. He's been successful in this league running that defense, and I think it's a bit too early to really say that the game has passed him by. Players play....coaches coach. Romeo can't be faulted for Berry getting raped by Gates all afternoon. Romeo can't be faulted for our DE's getting their shit pushed in. And that's another problem. This team has done nothing but finger point the last few seasons instead of taking responsibility for their own performances. He's been given a crappy QB. But he knew that going into the job. He's won w/ shitty QB's before (Anderson) and that was with shitty talent all over. Maybe he thought he could win w/ Cassel as long as there was a good coaching foundation set in place (aka no Haley sticking his dick into the playcalling all the time) and as long as there was lots of talent surrounding him. He was wrong. As it's been fairly apparant that nothing is going to ever make Cassel better than what he is. Injuries mounted up on the defense and the depth on this defense (especially in the secondary) is less than serviceable (Pioli's fault). The best thing Romeo can do now is to move on from Cassel. Insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Cassel has done nothing but suck while in KC except for one season where he didn't turn over the ball often because he wasn't really give a chance to. We ran the ball so **ing much and were good at doing it, all Cassel had to do was take care of the football, which he did exceptionally well that season...which I will give him credit for. Now it was against a bunch of teams that had losing records except for one (which we lost that game). That's not his fault, but it's reality. But other than in 2010, he's been complete dogshit. The best Cassel can do is be just good enough to take care of the ball and put the team in a position to beat the shitty bottom feeders teams of the league. Need to put in Quinn. Need some sort of change in the status quo because Cassel isn't working and he's turning the ball over. You're not going to win games in the NFL if you turn the ball over all the time, it's that simple. Romeo can't be blamed for Cassel throwing picks left and right and fumbling the football in their own territory. The defense can't be held responsible for giving up points in that situation either. What it comes down to, is that Romeo (as a HC) has to realize when the team has completely lost faith in what "should be" the leader of the football team on the field (the QB). I think it's pretty obvious that it's a chain reaction that when your QB loses all confidence in his own ability to play the game, the offense as a whole feels that as well, and the down-spiraling of the team as a whole occurs. You can even see it on the sidelines.....Cassel mopes around, almost acts like he doesn't care even. Just goes off into his own little world with a blank stare. Losing is ing contagious and people can see it, especially if it's "what's supposed to be" your leader on offense. Why do you think the great QB's in this league make their entire team play better? It's because other players know they have a ing field general that can lead them to victory. Which is exactly the complete opposite of what we have here in KC. Hell even the coach knows it, which is why we went full Herm-tard on offense during that last drive against the Saints. We could have easily had the chance to go for a win, but played it safe and ran the ball to keep it out of Cpt up's hands. You don't have to be a NFL coach, scout, former player, etc. to see that the team has lost complete confidence of Cassel at this point. You could even see the little bit of life that came to our team whenever Orton was playing last season. KYLE ING ORTON!!!! And he even sucks in his own right, but at least he can look like a real *ing QB at times and lead and offense down the field. Time to put in Quinn. He may suck it up...but to keep Cassel in at this point is just plain insanity...and I think it's at least telling your players that you want to try something different and move on from the failure that he brings to the table. I mean at some point there has to be a change somewhere...and Cassel seems to be the root to the whole problem, and Pioli for sticking w/ Cassel. __________________ Last edited by CoMoChief; 10-02-2012 at 04:57 PM..*
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