Prince is a Dick

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mcan

If they are what I think they are, you can buy the vintage kluson tuners and put them back on, but most people who gig take them off because they are fragile as hell.

This doesn't even make any sense. The original tuners were replaced with Sperzels. That alone removes the guitar from the high end "vintage" market, which isn't all the great for Crestwood's, anyway.

Furthermore, the Crestwood are 3x3 on the headstock, not inline six.

Originally Posted by mcan

They crumble in your hand if you're too rough with them.

I have literally played hundreds and hundreds of vintage guitars from the 30's through the late 60's and I've never once had a tuner "crumble" in my hand. My dad has a '63 335 that been gigged thousands upon thousands of times and the tuners are still intact and the guitar stays in perfect tune.

[mcan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This doesn't even make any sense. The original tuners were replaced with Sperzels. That alone removes the guitar from the high end "vintage" market, which isn't all the great for Crestwood's, anyway.

Furthermore, the Crestwood are 3x3 on the headstock, not inline six.



I have literally played hundreds and hundreds of vintage guitars from the 30's through the late 60's and I've never once had a tuner "crumble" in my hand. My dad has a '63 335 that been gigged thousands upon thousands of times and the tuners are still intact and the guitar stays in perfect tune.

all is good. They did have single line kluson tuners originally, but they weren't the "delux" model with the larger keys. The Crestwood had the smaller keys and the crumbling plastic problem was supposedly fixed by 1961. Here's a pick of what the Delux tuners from the late 50s did though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mcan

all is good. They did have single line kluson tuners originally, but they weren't the "delux" model with the larger keys. The Crestwood had the smaller keys and the crumbling plastic problem was supposedly fixed by 1961. Here's a pick of what the Delux tuners from the late 50s did though.

Fortunately, I've never seen or owned one that bad. That must have been seriously abused.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This doesn't even make any sense. The original tuners were replaced with Sperzels. That alone removes the guitar from the high end "vintage" market, which isn't all the great for Crestwood's, anyway.

Furthermore, the Crestwood are 3x3 on the headstock, not inline six.



I have literally played hundreds and hundreds of vintage guitars from the 30's through the late 60's and I've never once had a tuner "crumble" in my hand. My dad has a '63 335 that been gigged thousands upon thousands of times and the tuners are still intact and the guitar stays in perfect tune.

But if he saved the original tuners, and took the Spurzels off to put the originals back on, wouldn't that have restored the guitar to vintage status??

[ghak99]

He's a better man than I.

I'm afraid the video of him declining to sign my guitar, after destroying it, would have gone viral. Probably beating a famous afro flat with a guitar level viral.

[mcan]

also, if NBC has any class at all they will support this guy in filing suit and ban Prince from any NBC show. Period.

If they really want to lay the hammer down, ban him from ever appearing (or having any of music used at all) in anything NBC, Universal, or Comcast. You're done. Go have fun with Viacom... Until you maliciously fuck with one of their employees' livelihoods.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mcan

also, if NBC has any class at all they will support this guy in filing suit and ban Prince from any NBC show. Period.

If they really want to lay the hammer down, ban him from ever appearing (or having any of music used at all) in anything NBC, Universal, or Comcast. You're done. Go have fun with Viacom... Until you maliciously **** with one of their employees' livelihoods.

No. It's a guitar that can be repaired and as I said earlier, it's not "vintage" because the tuners were replaced.

[salame]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No. It's a guitar that can be repaired and as I said earlier, it's not "vintage" because the tuners were replaced.

ummm he could always put the original tuners back on



people change out the hardware and electronics on "vintage" guitars/basses all of the time but as long you retain and then replace the OE the guitar is still valuable and considered "original"

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by salame

ummm he could always put the original tuners back on



people change out the hardware and electronics on "vintage" guitars/basses all of the time but as long you retain and then replace the OE the guitar is still valuable and considered "original"

that's always been my understanding.

My '72 Tele Deluxe has some badass Gotoh tuners on it...a Pearly Gates in the bridge and a Fralin P-90 in the neck.

Kept all the originals in case I ever HAVE to sell it.

The '69 Coranado II has an aftermarket bridge that someone else put on; I'm looking for an original to restore it.

[Pepe Silvia]

Anyone really surprised? The dude won't even let you listen to his music on you tube for free.

[NewChief]

How many people knew this thread was headed in this direction as soon as Dane showed up and mcan started posting about guitars?

*raises hand*



There's only one conclusion. Dane is Prince. Mystery solved.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by NewChief

How many people knew this thread was headed in this direction as soon as Dane showed up and mcan started posting about guitars?

*raises hand*



There's only one conclusion. Dane is Prince. Mystery solved.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

What a cock sucker.

[KCUnited]

Sounds like rock n roll to me, of course so does caving in Prince's face after raping him with the neck.

[DaveNull]

I'm pretty sure the *only* thing to do after that kind of rockstar ending to a song is to break the guitar.

Also we're not talking Who or Ben Folds level destruction here.

Dick move? Sure, but it's Prince.