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Old 12-24-2008, 10:44 PM  
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:42 PM   #46
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I'd still say the odds that Gryllis would die during filming are much higher than Stroud.
That's only because he does manufactured stunts that nobody in a survival situation should attempt.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:45 PM   #47
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I'd still say the odds that Gryllis would die during filming are much higher than Stroud.

People don't watch hockey to see skating, and they don't watch auto racing to see the pit stops.
That is true and also the reason noone should take Bear for more than entertainment.

If you are stranded in wilderness, you do not take unnecessary risks. That is rule number one.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:49 PM   #48
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That is true and also the reason noone should take Bear for more than entertainment.

If you are stranded in wilderness, you do not take unnecessary risks. That is rule number one.
Exaclty...if you are stranded by yourself you don't go scaling waterfalls and climbing rocks and such. Unless you just want to get hurt and die a painful death.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:52 PM   #49
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That is true and also the reason noone should take Bear for more than entertainment.

If you are stranded in wilderness, you do not take unnecessary risks. That is rule number one.
you miss the whole point. It has always been very clear that MvW is to demonstrate how to get out of an extreme situation. the ONLY controversy is that in the first 2 seasons they didn't have explicit cut cards stating that he received assistance or on occasion stayed in a base camp or cabin. But at the end of the day, it was still Gryllis jumping into that river or eating a yak eyeball.

If you're lost in the mountains and near a trail, sure, you sit it out. But if your plane crashes in the middle of the desert and no one knows where you are or is looking for you, you MUST be proactive.


Gryllis jumps into quicksand to demonstrate how to get out of you ever encounter it. He jumps into a sub-freezing lake to show you how to get out and recover once you do.

Obviously 99% of people will never encounter either situation, but if you do, having watched MvW gives you a chance because he shows you how to handle it.

Stroud doesn't show anything like that.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:53 PM   #50
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Exaclty...if you are stranded by yourself you don't go scaling waterfalls and climbing rocks and such. Unless you just want to get hurt and die a painful death.
or unless you feel there is a high likelyhood that NO ONE knows you're missing or where you are. And those situations happen.
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you miss the whole point. It has always been very clear that MvW is to demonstrate how to get out of an extreme situation. the ONLY controversy is that in the first 2 seasons they didn't have explicit cut cards stating that he received assistance or on occasion stayed in a base camp or cabin. But at the end of the day, it was still Gryllis jumping into that river or eating a yak eyeball.

If you're lost in the mountains and near a trail, sure, you sit it out. But if your plane crashes in the middle of the desert and no one knows where you are or is looking for you, you MUST be proactive.


Gryllis jumps into quicksand to demonstrate how to get out of you ever encounter it. He jumps into a sub-freezing lake to show you how to get out and recover once you do.

Obviously 99% of people will never encounter either situation, but if you do, having watched MvW gives you a chance because he shows you how to handle it.

Stroud doesn't show anything like that.
Um, that is bullshit. Bear tired to pass off his show as the same as Survivorman until he got busted. And if you are in a plane crash or something you are going to beinjured at the least. So what Bear shows is not practical.
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Um, that is bullshit. Bear tired to pass off his show as the same as Survivorman until he got busted. And if you are in a plane crash or something you are going to beinjured at the least. So what Bear shows is not practical.
thousands of people have walked away from plane crashes with minor injuries.


apparently you're not just a dummy when it comes to the Chiefs and building decks. I won't continue to waste my time on you.
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I'm not going to slide down a waterfall over finding another route.
What, you don't think a shattered ankle and dying of gangrene sounds good?
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thousands of people have walked away from plane crashes with minor injuries.


apparently you're not just a dummy when it comes to the Chiefs and building decks. I won't continue to waste my time on you.
Do yourself a favor and do not ever leave your house.

Nevermind I said people are going to be injured and you just reaffirmed that then slamemd me for it.
What a ****ing tard.
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or unless you feel there is a high likelyhood that NO ONE knows you're missing or where you are. And those situations happen.

Also,if no one knows you are missing then you doomed yourself before you ever go in trouble.

Rule #1. ALWAYS tell someone where you are going and such.
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I won't discount what Bear shows you. But the conditions of which he attempted to portray it was bullshit. And now he has to premise his show that these are basically manufactured scenarios.

all in all, Les is surviving and Bear is showing you what to do in the case you get a hair up your ass and want to worsen your situation.
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I won't discount what Bear shows you. But the conditions of which he attempted to portray it was bullshit. And now he has to premise his show that these are basically manufactured scenarios.

all in all, Les is surviving and Bear is showing you what to do in the case you get a hair up your ass and want to worsen your situation.
Wasn't there a show called worse case scenario or something where they showed what to do in crazy situations?

Basically, Bear does that, but he wraps it up in a survival soap opera. I think he gives people some bad ideas though.

I remember the South Dakota episode where he left the plains and entered the Badlands because there was a road down in there. Probably safer to find a road on the prairie ehh, Bear?
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Wasn't there a show called worse case scenario or something where they showed what to do in crazy situations?

Basically, Bear does that, but he wraps it up in a survival soap opera. I think he gives people some bad ideas though.

I remember the South Dakota episode where he left the plains and entered the Badlands because there was a road down in there. Probably safer to find a road on the prairie ehh, Bear?
Les Stroud did a show to show you wht to do like if your car was caught in a flood and situations like that. I gree though, Bear takes too many risks that the normal person is not going to be able nor have the desire to take. Especially if you have never done it before.

Stroud has shown how to build fires, what a ****ing idea, from everything but matches. Bear always has his magnesium stick on him. Stroud also shows you how to buld snares and drop traps contrary to what the other guy says.

I watched Les start a fire last night using a LED flashlight. I have seen him start fires with rubbin sticks, using a battery and using fluids in a first aid kit.

I have seen Bear do nothing other than use his magnesium stick.,

Les also shows you how to strip down whatever equipment you may have and how to use it to your advantage.

Clearly Survivorman is the more practical of the shows as more hikers\bikers\snowmobiler's will find themsevles in his situations rather than Bear's.
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