The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

[ratchet]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Alex Smith is mediocre. He is a game manager. This is fact. Many believe that trading for him eliminates our chances of drafting Geno. Many posters are so impressed my Geno, that that thought is unbearable to them. Much like myself. However i do not believe that trading for Alex means we cannot or will not draft Geno.

Exactly, trading for alex only means we wont see our drafted qb for one year. If we want geno at 1 then we'll get him at one. plain and simple. I just don't think we will. No reason to hate on alex smith because they're mutually exclusive.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by ratchet

yah i actually have heard all that. And he's still not considered a first pick. Just face it.

Well thats silly. I know theres been a lot of talk of him being the first pick. Mcshay mentioned it the other day. Scott wright has him going to us. Maybe Mel Kiper and Mayock don't, but their resumes speak for themselves - they don't know what they are talking about.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

nothing you've said is true

Geno is the consensus #1 QB and top 10 pick on everyone's board sans those idiots kiper and mcshay...

and 'bpa' is complete horseshit...

never mind that Barkley is a top 10 pick too...

Actually McShay has Geno in his top 10 now.

Everybody is backtracking.

Ratchet should change his name to Clank.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ratchet

So you think you're a better judge of football talent than scouts and gms of nfl teams?? ur funny. Yes, everyone on this forum want geno but everyone that's not affiliated with kc agrees he's not a first pick

Do you know what scouts and GMs ACTUALLY think of Geno?



Mel Kiper is not a scout nor does he talk to scouts. He talks to AGENTS.

You're a ****ing sheep.

BAA BAA BAA

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by ratchet

Exactly, trading for alex only means we wont see our drafted qb for one year. If we want geno at 1 then we'll get him at one. plain and simple. I just don't think we will. No reason to hate on alex smith because they're mutually exclusive.

No. they are quite easily linked. especially if you think Geno is as a good a player as some do. Who knows what next year will bring. We may not be in a position to draft a qb next year. specifically one such as Geno. Then what?? Wait till we suck again to draft one? Well were in a perfect position to do that this year and besides, if you dont take Geno, then who do you take? In your opinion..

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ratchet

Exactly, trading for alex only means we wont see our drafted qb for one year. If we want geno at 1 then we'll get him at one. plain and simple. I just don't think we will. No reason to hate on alex smith because they're mutually exclusive.

No, don't hate on Alex Smith because of his potential impact on the draft.

Hate on Alex Smith BECAUSE HE ****ING SUCKS!

[The Franchise]

The Bills have been awfully quiet throughout this entire process.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

No. they are quite easily linked. especially if you think Geno is as a good a player as some do. Who knows what next year will bring. We may not be in a position to draft a qb next year. specifically one such as Geno. Then what?? Wait till we suck again to draft one? Well were in a perfect position to do that this year and besides, if you dont take Geno, then who do you take? In your opinion..

Bring in Alex Smith, win 8 games, miss out on QB in 2014.

It's the True Fan Plan™.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ratchet

i'm watching and it's pretty impressive. but i also gotta say that what these scouts are saying and the fact that they're all similar to each other means that there is credence to what they're saying. What they see with actual, actual game film, not just highlights with every snap is still better than anything we have access to. They also know what to look for more than the average forumer. So the scouting reports said alot of good things about geno but in the end there's a reason that they say he's not a number one pick and I have to acknowledge what they're saying.

This QB class is being viewed through a prism that is skewed by last year,s class.

The Sam Bradfords, Matt Staffords, and Matt Ryans of previous classes were not these sparkling sure fire prospects without flaws that are superior to Geno Smith in every way.

Ther are only a couple of QBs in the 10 years prior to last year that would clearly grade out higher.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Alex Smith is Matt Cassel with less charisma and leadership skills. Since Matt was drafted in the MLB, probably less atheletic as well. They both blow 70% of their starting years.

[duncan_idaho]

Mike Mayock is a PERFECT example of how much Geno's stock is rising.

Six weeks ago, Mayock didn't consider Geno Smith a first-round talent (this was before he had broken down Geno or many others players, but still was spitting out mocks and being pissy in wording them).

A week ago, before the combine, after watching 6 games, Mayock said Geno was worthy of pick No. 20-32.

Yesterday, on NFL Network, he calls him a top 10 pick/talent in this draft.

You can throw McShay into the mix, too.

Don't listen to the experts. Especially when they're talking about guys in December and January.

Mel Kiper had Manti Te'o - who plays a non-impact position and is a below-average athlete for the position - as his top player on the board in December. Why does ANYONE place ANY stock in what he was saying about other players at that point?

Kiper will probably be the LAST guy to admit Geno Smith is a top 10 pick. But he will, just like everyone else.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Bring in Alex Smith, win 8 games, miss out on QB in 2014.

It's the True Fan Plan™.

I just cant understand the logic. The only way i would even entertain it, is if there was a worthwhile replacement pick. there is not. there is no Calvin Johnsons or Clowneys etc. None. Just boring linemen, who havnt decided championships in decades.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I'm sure a Q but:

Jason La Canfora‏@JasonLaCanfora

The Alex Smith trade is not with Arizona, to be clear again. The Cards offer was weak. 49ers told people its not AZ. KC remains likely team

[duncan_idaho]

Also... I can stomach trading for Alex Smith IF they're still drafting a QB at No 1 (I prefer Geno, but if Barkley wows throwing the ball or Reid likes him more, I can live with it) and IF this whole rumor about Alex Smith wanting an extension from whomever acquires him BEFORE the season is b.s.

But if trading for Alex Smith means signing him to a big extension before the season starts AND that the Chiefs instead draft a developmental guy in Round 3 or later, hell no. DO... NOT... WANT.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by ratchet

So you think you're a better judge of football talent than scouts and gms of nfl teams?? ur funny. Yes, everyone on this forum want geno but everyone that's not affiliated with kc agrees he's not a first pick

LOL wrong. God damn.