Ellen Page is gay

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Definitely.

It's tough to tell, but I feel like the "why do they keep telling us? Why can't they just be gay and keep it to themselves?" comment is thinly veiled homophobia.

I can only speak for myself, but outside of the anonymity of here, I am not one given to offering my opinion on things unless asked or required by my work.

This is largely due to my hanging out with people with whom I would disagree on a number of issues.

And I'm not 'sick of it' or 'offended by it,' just weary of the Pavlovian feedback loop.

I'm gay

[massive applause]

I think it's great s/he said s/he's gay!!

So eloquent, I'm in tears.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I can only speak for myself, but outside of the anonymity of here, I am not one given to offering my opinion on things unless asked or required by my work.

This is largely due to my hanging out with people with whom I would disagree on a number of issues.

And I'm not 'sick of it' or 'offended by it,' just weary of the Pavlovian feedback loop.

I'm gay

[massive applause]

I think it's great s/he said s/he's gay!!

So eloquent, I'm in tears.

It is odd, especially when "I'm proud to be gay" is included. It really isn't much of an accomplishment.

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Donger

It is odd, especially when "I'm proud to be gay" is included. It really isn't much of an accomplishment.

I would think it would be more of an accomplishment to be bi. Convincingly playing both parts.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Donger

It is odd, especially when "I'm proud to be gay" is included. It really isn't much of an accomplishment.

So you don't think truly being proud of who you are, after growing up In a society that tells you you are not equal, you don't deserve the same rights we do, God hates you, you could,lose your family and friends, your career, you could be beaten and the perpetrators would barely be slapped on the wrists, you are told you are bad parents and the last goes on, if you are gay, isnt much of an accomplishment??? That takes a whole lot of mental strength and therapy to be proud of who you are when you are gay. To be proud is quite the accomplishment because the gays I know, have a lot of internal homophobia and addiction problems. Like drinking to kill the pain of not being "normal", and in the end, they kill themselves.

Maybe they say it out loud, so young gays can grow up Ina different environment, and hopefully become proud of who they are sooner than the old generation.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

So you don't think truly being proud of who you are, after growing up In a society that tells you you are not equal, you don't deserve the same rights we do, God hates you, you could,lose your family and friends, your career, you could be beaten and the perpetrators would barely be slapped on the wrists, you are told you are bad parents and the last goes on, if you are gay, isnt much of an accomplishment??? That takes a whole lot of mental strength and therapy to be proud of who you are when you are gay. To be proud is quite the accomplishment because the gays I know, have a lot of internal homophobia and addiction problems. Like drinking to kill the pain of not being "normal", and in the end, they kill themselves.

Maybe they say it out loud, so young gays can grow up Ina different environment, and hopefully become proud of who they are sooner than the old generation.

Like I said, it's not an accomplishment. It's just who they are. I can see some of the logic of being proud to announce their sexuality to the world (kind of), but not "I'm gay and I'm proud of it!"

Graduating from Harvard? Sure, that's an accomplishment.

Winning a playoff game? Yes.

Getting a promotion at work.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Donger

Like I said, it's not an accomplishment. It's just who they are. I can see some of the logic of being proud to announce their sexuality to the world (kind of), but not "I'm gay and I'm proud of it!"

Graduating from Harvard? Sure, that's an accomplishment.

Winning a playoff game? Yes.

Getting a promotion at work.

You're looking at accomplishments as things you can touch, a degree, more money, a ring etc...but accomplishing happiness, being proud of yourself, and surviving the storm that follows because you risk losing many things, is also an accomplishment.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You're looking at accomplishments as things you can touch, a degree, more money, a ring etc...but accomplishing happiness, being proud of yourself, and surviving the storm that follows because you risk losing many things, is also an accomplishment.

Again, I'm specifically talking about "I'm proud that I'm gay."

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Donger

Again, I'm specifically talking about "I'm proud that I'm gay."

I'm not necessarily proud that I'm straight, but I was really proud the first time I got a chance to prove it.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Donger

Like I said, it's not an accomplishment. It's just who they are. I can see some of the logic of being proud to announce their sexuality to the world (kind of), but not "I'm gay and I'm proud of it!"

Graduating from Harvard? Sure, that's an accomplishment.

Winning a playoff game? Yes.

Getting a promotion at work.

Exactly.

I would like to come out and say that I am straight.

Now, everyone create threads about me.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Like I said, it's not an accomplishment. It's just who they are. I can see some of the logic of being proud to announce their sexuality to the world (kind of), but not "I'm gay and I'm proud of it!"

Graduating from Harvard? Sure, that's an accomplishment.

Winning a playoff game? Yes.

Getting a promotion at work.

"I'm proud of it" doesn't mean "I've accomplished something" in this context. It means "I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm gay" and it's probably more about speaking to others who are afraid to come out and offering to be a role model for them than it is about anything self-focused.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by patteeu

"I'm proud of it" doesn't mean "I've accomplished something" in this context. It means "I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm gay" and it's probably more about speaking to others who are afraid to come out and offering to be a role model for them than it is about anything self-focused.

I agree with this.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by patteeu

"I'm proud of it" doesn't mean "I've accomplished something" in this context. It means "I'm not ashamed of the fact that I'm gay" and it's probably more about speaking to others who are afraid to come out and offering to be a role model for them than it is about anything self-focused.

Then that is what they should say.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Then that is what they should say.

That's what they are saying. I'm sorry you don't like the words they chose, but I'm not having any trouble understanding them.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Donger

Like I said, it's not an accomplishment. It's just who they are. I can see some of the logic of being proud to announce their sexuality to the world (kind of), but not "I'm gay and I'm proud of it!"

Graduating from Harvard? Sure, that's an accomplishment.

Winning a playoff game? Yes.

Getting a promotion at work.

Getting into Harvard is the key. Graduating is a mere formality afterwards.

[houstonwhodat]

Originally Posted by Donger

Like I said, it's not an accomplishment. It's just who they are. I can see some of the logic of being proud to announce their sexuality to the world (kind of), but not "I'm gay and I'm proud of it!"

Graduating from Harvard? Sure, that's an accomplishment.

Winning a playoff game? Yes.

Getting a promotion at work.

What do they want me to say?

Congratulations! You suck cock and take it up the ass!