I Predict The 2013 QB's To Be

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

There is no question that Stanzi regressed from his first preseason to his second...his first came without a training camp or other offseason activities due to the lockout, meaning he was going off his college coaching.

That can mean a few things:

He is a total loss and can't figure out the pro game
The coaching he has received as a pro has been totally worthless.
The coaches were playing favorites (Pioli is classes pet and Romeos was Quinn)

...

I guess we will all see what Stanzi has to offer without the political stuff going forward because Reid is a bonified QB guru.

Should be interesting.

And if he's cut, the bold is what Stanzi ball washers will cling to.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And if he's cut, the bold is what Stanzi ball washers will cling to.

I can guarantee you that I will back whatever decision Reid makes regarding Stanzi.

All I'm saying is that I know the coaching staff he worked under was total, complete crap...therefore it's nearly impossible to properly judge Stanzi based on his time with them.

The truth is that Stanzi regressed last year and I think that was due to poor coaching, that doesn't mean his mistakes were all due to that factor, though. Some of it was embarrassingly bad and he didn't look to be deserving of the stae he was on, even a preseason one. I guess we will see.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I can guarantee you that I will back whatever decision Reid makes regarding Stanzi.

All I'm saying is that I know the coaching staff he worked under was total, complete crap...therefore it's nearly impossible to properly judge Stanzi based on his time with them.

The truth is that Stanzi regressed last year and I think that was due to poor coaching. I guess we will see.

I agree completely with this take.

As I stated, I didn't like Stanzi as a prospect, so my comments about him have never wavered from this stance. That said, I believe he should have seen playing time during '12 because it was a lost season. Thus, there was no risk and nothing but potential upside, should Stanzi emerge/surprise/etc.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I agree completely with this take.

As I stated, I didn't like Stanzi as a prospect, so my comments about him have never wavered from this stance. That said, I believe he should have seen playing time during '12 because it was a lost season. Thus, there was no risk and nothing but potential upside, should Stanzi emerge/surprise/etc.

Did you like Cousins coming out of college? I ask because it's completely irrational to give one fraction of an ounce of dap to Cousins more than Stanzi.

As much as people want to say, "C'mon, give Kirk Cousins a break, he was way better than Stanzi" it's pretty hard to point to anything Cousins did in college that Stanzi didn't do. Even in their styles of play and talent level.

Ferentz doesn't produce QBs? Well how many has Mark Dantonio produced? I haven't heard what Jeff Smoker has been up to lately.

And yet Cousins goes to Washington in a zero pressure situation with a fantastic QB coach. The starter ahead of him is an elite athlete who has made the offense click better than any Redskins QB since Joe ****ing Theisman. Shit starts to move, people gain confidence, defenses start to give respect to all facets of the offense, and before you know it Cousins is placed in the perfect situation against a weak Browns defense to go out and look phenomenal.

And then what happens? People think Cousins is actually ****ing LEGIT?

(Not talking about you, Deez) Blows my ****ing mind how easily fooled most football fans are. Even a lot of the smart ones.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

Did you like Cousins coming out of college? I ask because it's completely irrational to give one fraction of an ounce of dap to Cousins more than Stanzi.

As much as people want to say, "C'mon, give Kirk Cousins a break, he was way better than Stanzi" it's pretty hard to point to anything Cousins did in college that Stanzi didn't do. Even in their styles of play and talent level.

Ferentz doesn't produce QBs? Well how many has Tom ****ing Izzo produced? I haven't heard what Jeff Smoker has been up to lately.

And yet Cousins goes to Washington in a zero pressure situation with a fantastic QB coach. The starter ahead of him is an elite athlete who has made the offense click better than any Redskins QB since Joe ****ing Theisman. Shit starts to move, people gain confidence, defenses start to give respect to all facets of the offense, and before you know it Cousins is placed in the perfect situation against a weak Browns defense to go out and look phenomenal.

And then what happens? People think Cousins is actually ****ing LEGIT?

(Not talking about you, Deez) Blows my ****ing mind how easily fooled most football fans are. Even a lot of the smart ones.

BOOM, Headshot.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

BOOM, Headshot.

I think you are confusing this as a defense of stanzi when it isn't. SNR corect me if I am wrong..

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I think you are confusing this as a defense of stanzi when it isn't. SNR corect me if I am wrong..

Nope. SNR has been a big Stanzi supporter.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I think you are confusing this as a defense of stanzi when it isn't. SNR corect me if I am wrong..

It was mostly an excuse to shit on Kirk Cousins. I do relish those opportunities, because I think Cousins would be sucking hard/would be as irrelevant as Stanzi if he weren't being coddled by Rat and Friends in Washington.

You take a poster like Reerun who ****ing loathes Stanzi but is open to acquiring Cousins for the right price as a backup. That kind of stupidity makes my blood boil.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by SNR

Did you like Cousins coming out of college? I ask because it's completely irrational to give one fraction of an ounce of dap to Cousins more than Stanzi.

First, I'm not a Stanzi or Cousins Whisperer. I'm not.

I thought that Stanzi was an emotionally fragile bitch coming out. Unfair? Almost certainly. But this view was solidified in my mind when he checked down, at home, trailing, with time expiring and no TOs against Wisconsin (I believe).

Beautiful drive to this point. Ended by idiocy on the part of the QB. Now, one could argue that the back should have gotten out of bounds, blah, blah, blah. And maybe this is true. But the fact is that the trigger man put his teammate in a terrible place.

During the great Cassel wars of '10, I had and have no sympathy for idiocy from the QB position.

From my limited view, Cousins didn't hit these depths. Again, I didn't watch him play against NE Kansas City Tech, so I might be mistaken.

Too much stake in one play? Absolutely. Completely. But I never saw enough, even after this, to change my mind, even when Iowa bested my team in the bowl game later that season.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

First, I'm not a Stanzi or Cousins Whisperer. I'm not.

I thought that Stanzi was an emotionally fragile bitch coming out. Unfair? Almost certainly. But this view was solidified in my mind when he checked down, at home, trailing, with time expiring and no TOs against Wisconsin (I believe).

Beautiful drive to this point. Ended by idiocy on the part of the QB. Now, one could argue that the back should have gotten out of bounds, blah, blah, blah. And maybe this is true. But the fact is that the trigger man put his teammate in a terrible place.

During the great Cassel wars of '10, I had and have no sympathy for idiocy from the QB position.

From my limited view, Cousins didn't hit these depths. Again, I didn't watch him play against NE Kansas City Tech, so I might be mistaken.

Fragile Emotionally?

Huh?

Source? Evidence? lol

As far as the check down, you're referring to the Ferentz blunder, not Stanzi. I know the exact play, time on the clock, players on the field, etc.

I cried.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Fragile Emotionally?

Huh?

Source? Evidence? lol

As far as the check down, you're referring to the Ferentz blunder, not Stanzi. I know the exact play, time on the clock, players on the field, etc.

I cried.

You can't cry "source??!!? " when one posts his opinions. The "source" is my last post. FFS.

When you post that Pioil prevented RAC from starting a player, that's when you're called out.

Badgirl?