Stone Temple Pilots fire lead singer

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Consistent with what, exactly? Guys dying from heroin overdoses? Changing drummers every other year? Changing guitarists every album?





U2 released their first album in 1980. Their heyday was during the 80's, not the 90's.

Too fat.

Dude what?
Frusciante the guitarist was gone for 1 maybe two
albums and and was replaced with Navarro then came back.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Dude what?
Frusciante the guitarist was gone for 1 maybe two
albums and and was replaced with Navarro then came back.

Hillel Slovak, Arik Marshall, Frusciante, Navarro, Jesse Tobias, DeWayne McKnight, Jack Sherman.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hillel Slovak, Arik Marshall, Frusciante, Navarro, Jesse Tobias, DeWayne McKnight, Jack Sherman.

to put this into context, Tobias, Marshall, and Blackbyrd didn't record with RHCP; they're were all in the band for a cumulative 15min, collectively.

Sherman replaced Slovak for the first album and tour while Slovak was in another band with Jackie I, so really it's like this :

Sherman : 1984
Slovak : 85-88
Frusciante : 88-92
Navarro : 93-97
Frusciante : 98-2010
Klinghoffer : 2010-??

that's 5 guitarists over 30 years.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.

'grunge' WAS a fad - only people at least a decade older than me even use that word in conjunction with any type of musical genre though; it described the way posers dressed in high school.

Fact is, the music of the so-called 'grunge' bands is pretty disparate. Jane's Addiction sounded nothing like Chili Peppers, who sounded nothing like Soundgarden, who sounded nothing like Smashing Pumpkins.

I don't know too many bands from the 70's and 80's who put out records that move huge numbers, except for U2 and RHCP. Elton John.

But a lot of the 70's/80's bands move tickets purely on nostalgia; they hit the baby boomer market hard - even going so far to scalp their own tickets to make sure they gougue their 'fans' for as much as they can.

Originally Posted by penguinz

RHCP last good album was Mothers Milk.

they've had at least 3 great records since then.

Hell, I'm in the minority, but I'm a big One Hot Minute fan.

Originally Posted by jd1020

I wish I could find my cover for the album but I'm betting I could count the songs credited with DuVall as a co-writer with 3 fingers or less.

Hey...Dane's in the industry, so that means his opinion on the subject is somehow more valid than anyone else's.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Fact is, the music of the so-called 'grunge' bands is pretty disparate. Jane's Addiction sounded nothing like Chili Peppers, who sounded nothing like Soundgarden, who sounded nothing like Smashing Pumpkins

Jane's Addiction was NEVER considered "grunge". They were Alternative and from Los Angeles, not Seattle. The Pumpkins were from Chicago and also considered an Alt band.

You're confusing genres.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Jane's Addiction was NEVER considered "grunge". They were Alternative and from Los Angeles, not Seattle. The Pumpkins were from Chicago and also considered an Alt band.

You're confusing genres.

Yep - confused the movement with the genre.

(like, 'alternative' back in the day included Jane's, Sonic Youth, Nirvana, Pumpkins, etc. Then, they started calling all the bands from Seattle 'grunge' in order to capitalize on the fad you alluded to...)