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Old 07-25-2008, 03:45 PM  
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An ode to Gunther

Most coordinators get ousted once a new head coach arrives, yet Gunther Cunningham has been with the Chiefs through three different head coaches. I find this pretty amazing. Any thoughts?
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #16
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Wow. Sorry guys. I Guess Gunther is a crappy coach. Bad thread. Sorry.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:14 PM   #17
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Wow. Sorry guys. I Guess Gunther is a crappy coach. Bad thread. Sorry.

Look, hes not the worst coach in the world, but hes hardly anything special. Special coaches are the ones that win championships.

Do you remember our Run Defense the past few years?? They still suffer from the same breakdowns at critical times. How about the 3rd down defense? Or lack of a 3rd down defense.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.

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Old 07-25-2008, 04:21 PM   #18
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I get your point. I'm not suggesting he's the best DC in the league ... I think he can make defenses better. and I'm glad we have him. I am just surprised he's survived so many "regime changes" ...
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:22 PM   #19
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I get your point. I'm not suggesting he's the best DC in the league ... I think he can make defenses better. and I'm glad we have him. I am just surprised he's survived so many "regime changes" ...
What one thing has remained constant during said "regime changes"?
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:23 PM   #20
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I am just surprised he's survived so many "regime changes" ...

Me too. Ive always wondered why Herm kept him when he came to KC? Seems like a square peg in a round hole.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:24 PM   #21
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Ode To Gunther

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Oh, Gunther, Oh Gunther, you are batshit nuts.
Some say you're a genius. Some say you're a putz.
You tell us you need just one player or two
And all will be well if Carl listens to you.

But those players come and they stink up the place
While you're sitting upstairs with chaw in your face.
And you spit and curse and then you spit some more
All in the name of a good team rapport.

Then next year you tell us it's all about scheme
And things will be better with our fav'rite team.
But that plan implodes as opponents score thirty
And our players whiff and don't even get dirty.

And when we fans say that it's all gone to hell
You tell us to screw off, we've got Kendrell Bell.
And if you don't like it, come in for a meeting
So you and your 'backers can give us a beating.

Then finally you have a big sit down with Herm
Who tells you, "It's okay." you just must be firm.
So you yell and blaspheme and kick fat cabooses
'Cause you're out of players and plays and excuses.

You've got it! You claim! It's not runs it's the passes!
(And the fact you can't find anymore big orange glasses.)
So you draft fat linemen who can't even run
And announce they're the answer. It's what you do, Gun.

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Old 07-25-2008, 04:28 PM   #22
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What one thing has remained constant during said "regime changes"?
King Carl. But I have no idea what Carl thinks of Gun, otherwise I wouldn't have posted this thread. Maybe that's the simple answer: Carl likes him.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:29 PM   #23
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Ode To Gunther

By FAX.

Oh, Gunther, Oh Gunther, you are batshit nuts.
Some say you're a genius. Some say you're a putz.
You tell us you need just one player or two
And all will be well if Carl listens to you.

But those players come and they stink up the place
While you're sitting upstairs with chaw in your face.
And you spit and curse and then you spit some more
All in the name of a good team rapport.

Then next year you tell us it's all about scheme
And things will be better with our fav'rite team.
But that plan implodes as opponents score thirty
And our players whiff and don't even get dirty.

And when we fans say that it's all gone to hell
You tell us to screw off, we've got Kendrell Bell.
And if you don't like it, come in for a meeting
So you and your 'backers can give us a beating.

Then finally you have a big sit down with Herm
Who tells you, "It's okay." you just must be firm.
So you yell and blaspheme and kick fat cabooses
'Cause you're out of players and plays and excuses.

You've got it! You claim! It's not runs it's the passes!
(And the fact you can't find anymore big orange glasses.)
So you draft fat linemen who can't even run
And announce they're the answer. It's what you do, Gun.

FAX
This actually brought a tear to my eye.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:29 PM   #24
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Ode To Gunther

By FAX.

Oh, Gunther, Oh Gunther, you are batshit nuts.
Some say you're a genius. Some say you're a putz.
You tell us you need just one player or two
And all will be well if Carl listens to you.

But those players come and they stink up the place
While you're sitting upstairs with chaw in your face.
And you spit and curse and then you spit some more
All in the name of a good team rapport.

Then next year you tell us it's all about scheme
And things will be better with our fav'rite team.
But that plan implodes as opponents score thirty
And our players whiff and don't even get dirty.

And when we fans say that it's all gone to hell
You tell us to screw off, we've got Kendrell Bell.
And if you don't like it, come in for a meeting
So you and your 'backers can give us a beating.

Then finally you have a big sit down with Herm
Who tells you, "It's okay." you just must be firm.
So you yell and blaspheme and kick fat cabooses
'Cause you're out of players and plays and excuses.

You've got it! You claim! It's not runs it's the passes!
(And the fact you can't find anymore big orange glasses.)
So you draft fat linemen who can't even run
And announce they're the answer. It's what you do, Gun.

FAX



Funniest thing ive read in a long time. Better said than i ever could. rep!
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:31 PM   #25
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Ode To Gunther

By FAX.

Oh, Gunther, Oh Gunther, you are batshit nuts.
Some say you're a genius. Some say you're a putz.
You tell us you need just one player or two
And all will be well if Carl listens to you.

But those players come and they stink up the place
While you're sitting upstairs with chaw in your face.
And you spit and curse and then you spit some more
All in the name of a good team rapport.

Then next year you tell us it's all about scheme
And things will be better with our fav'rite team.
But that plan implodes as opponents score thirty
And our players whiff and don't even get dirty.

And when we fans say that it's all gone to hell
You tell us to screw off, we've got Kendrell Bell.
And if you don't like it, come in for a meeting
So you and your 'backers can give us a beating.

Then finally you have a big sit down with Herm
Who tells you, "It's okay." you just must be firm.
So you yell and blaspheme and kick fat cabooses
'Cause you're out of players and plays and excuses.

You've got it! You claim! It's not runs it's the passes!
(And the fact you can't find anymore big orange glasses.)
So you draft fat linemen who can't even run
And announce they're the answer. It's what you do, Gun.

FAX
Be fair; in his glory years Gunther had tremendous DTs which freed up his ends and backers to create plays. For the last decade, we have been trying to find the answer at DT to no avail. It is my belief that a franchise DT is at the core of Gun's genius AND that Dorsey could be that DT. Al will RUE the day he gave Gun his ticket back to dominance.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:31 PM   #26
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King Carl. But I have no idea what Carl thinks of Gun, otherwise I wouldn't have posted this thread. Maybe that's the simple answer: Carl likes him.
That or he has some compromising pictures.
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Maybe that's the simple answer: Carl likes him.
Ahh.....u learn quick young grasshopper. Wise beyond your years.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Ahh.....u learn quick young grasshopper. Wise beyond your years.
Carl likes him so much he fired him over the internet.
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Carl likes him so much he fired him over the internet.

I wonder if he would have done it if he wouldnt have been able to convince DV to come out of retirement?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Look, hes not the worst coach in the world, but hes hardly anything special. Special coaches are the ones that win championships.

Do you remember our Run Defense the past few years?? They still suffer from the same breakdowns at critical times. How about the 3rd down defense? Or lack of a 3rd down defense.

If players like Simms & Siavii lived up to their picks maybe we could have had a better D. Those guys were lush and not even Gunther could get them to be worth a

Now we got Glenn Dorsey and hopefully we struck gold with this pick.
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