An ode to Gunther

[JuicesFlowing]

Most coordinators get ousted once a new head coach arrives, yet Gunther Cunningham has been with the Chiefs through three different head coaches. I find this pretty amazing. Any thoughts?

[Extra Point]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Be fair; in his glory years Gunther had tremendous DTs which freed up his ends and backers to create plays. For the last decade, we have been trying to find the answer at DT to no avail. It is my belief that a franchise DT is at the core of Gun's genius AND that Dorsey could be that DT. Al will RUE the day he gave Gun his ticket back to dominance.

Sorry, that's not good enough for a retort. Must me in Suess-tambic pentameter!

[blueballs]

wow
yall put that n00b in a wheelchair
pretty quick

[markk]

I am a huge fan of Gunther personally, and there wasn't much talent on defense last year, but he needs to do a better job, no excuses.

["Bob" Dobbs]

Originally Posted by FAX

Ode To Gunther

By FAX.

Oh, Gunther, Oh Gunther, you are batshit nuts.
Some say you're a genius. Some say you're a putz.
You tell us you need just one player or two
And all will be well if Carl listens to you.

But those players come and they stink up the place
While you're sitting upstairs with chaw in your face.
And you spit and curse and then you spit some more
All in the name of a good team rapport.

Then next year you tell us it's all about scheme
And things will be better with our fav'rite team.
But that plan implodes as opponents score thirty
And our players whiff and don't even get dirty.

And when we fans say that it's all gone to hell
You tell us to screw off, we've got Kendrell Bell.
And if you don't like it, come in for a meeting
So you and your 'backers can give us a beating.

Then finally you have a big sit down with Herm
Who tells you, "It's okay." you just must be firm.
So you yell and blaspheme and kick fat cabooses
'Cause you're out of players and plays and excuses.

You've got it! You claim! It's not runs it's the passes!
(And the fact you can't find anymore big orange glasses.)
So you draft fat linemen who can't even run
And announce they're the answer. It's what you do, Gun.

FAX

Freakin' beautiful. I bow to you, sir. Rep.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

If players like Simms & Siavii lived up to their picks maybe we could have had a better D. Those guys were lush and not even Gunther could get them to be worth a

Now we got Glenn Dorsey and hopefully we struck gold with this pick.

Too bad those were guys that Goonther signed off of (Siavii in particular).

I don't know how Goonther still has a job as D-Coordinator of the Chiefs. Yes, put up huge numbers in 1995 & 1997 but with that much talent on D (and Marty as head coach) who wouldn't?

Gunther needs Baltimore-like talent to field a top ten defense, which basically says he's a product of his players, not the other way around.

He's nothing special and probably below average. Which is why he could only get a job as a LB coach once he was fired from KC.

[Lonewolf Ed]

Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

Greg Robinson ruined our defense. Gunther came back and suddenly the Chiefs D wasn't a laughing stock. Coincidence?

Robinson, man or not, was not just a bad defensive coordinator. He was atrocious! Just having a safety or cornerback not run 10 yards up to the line of scrimmage and have him trying not to go offsides, thus the offense is 100%sure it's a blitz is enough to make a defense's stats improve noticeably. There are indeed many levels of rotten. Greg owned the bottom level.

[Jawshco]

When I think of Gunther, I think of cussing! LOL. He makes an art of a cantankerous attitude. I wish I still had that picture of him cussing out an opposing fan while inside his booth during a game. I remember seeing that live, and laughing for hours afterwards. I remember seeing that somebody took screen grab pic of it, but I couldn't find it to post it here. I'll keep looking.

[the Talking Can]

Gunther's talent evaluation skill rivals Paula Abdul....

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by FAX

Ode To Gunther

By FAX.

Oh, Gunther, Oh Gunther, you are batshit nuts.
Some say you're a genius. Some say you're a putz.
You tell us you need just one player or two
And all will be well if Carl listens to you.

But those players come and they stink up the place
While you're sitting upstairs with chaw in your face.
And you spit and curse and then you spit some more
All in the name of a good team rapport.

Then next year you tell us it's all about scheme
And things will be better with our fav'rite team.
But that plan implodes as opponents score thirty
And our players whiff and don't even get dirty.

And when we fans say that it's all gone to hell
You tell us to screw off, we've got Kendrell Bell.
And if you don't like it, come in for a meeting
So you and your 'backers can give us a beating.

Then finally you have a big sit down with Herm
Who tells you, "It's okay." you just must be firm.
So you yell and blaspheme and kick fat cabooses
'Cause you're out of players and plays and excuses.

You've got it! You claim! It's not runs it's the passes!
(And the fact you can't find anymore big orange glasses.)
So you draft fat linemen who can't even run
And announce they're the answer. It's what you do, Gun.

FAX

Outstanding FAX!

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Too bad those were guys that Goonther signed off of (Siavii in particular).

I don't know how Goonther still has a job as D-Coordinator of the Chiefs. Yes, put up huge numbers in 1995 & 1997 but with that much talent on D (and Marty as head coach) who wouldn't?

Gunther needs Baltimore-like talent to field a top ten defense, which basically says he's a product of his players, not the other way around.

He's nothing special and probably below average. Which is why he could only get a job as a LB coach once he was fired from KC.

He's an excellent playcaller. His 95 and 97 defenses were historic; I doubt there's a D-coordinator out there who could have done more. Marty just particularly complements him well because Marty is the end-all be-all of talent evaluation.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

He's an excellent playcaller. His 95 and 97 defenses were historic; I doubt there's a D-coordinator out there who could have done more. Marty just particularly complements him well because Marty is the end-all be-all of talent evaluation.

Um, I take it that this is sarcasm?

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, I take it that this is sarcasm?

I'm totally serious.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I'm totally serious.

Alright

[StcChief]

Gun is still LB coach.... right. Doing what he does best....
http://www.kcchiefs.com/coaching_staff/ as DC is he really just doing what Herm wants.?

Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers - Gunther Cunningham
Offensive Coordinator - Chan Gailey
Offensive Line - Bob Bicknell
Assistant Head Coach/Quarterbacks - Dick Curl
Assistant Offensive Line - Joe D’Alessandris
Tight Ends - Jon Embree
Defensive Backs - David Gibbs
Defensive Assistant - Michael Ketchum
Defensive Line - Tim Krumrie
Running Backs - Curtis Modkins
Offensive Assistant/Quality Control - Kevin Patullo
Wide Receivers - Eric Price
Special Teams - Mike Priefer
Assistant Strength and Conditioning - Brent Salazar
Strength and Conditioning - Cedric Smith
Manager of Football Operations/Player Development - Nate Wainwright
Defensive Quality Control Assistant - Daron Roberts
Administrative Assistants - Ann Roach and Debbie Ball

[rad]

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.