KC may NOT have to win either of the next two games to get into the playoffs...

donkhater · 12-06-2005, 06:52 AM

Clearly, I would love for KC to run the table. But this board doesn't have to go into meltdown mode should KC lose their next two games---as long as they win their last two home games.

For KC to make the playoffs under that scenario:

1) Denver would have to win out, including at SD. The schedule does us a favor, for once, more in a minute.

2) Pitt would have to lose one of their remaining games, it doesn't matter which one.

3) SD would have to lose at KC and vs. Denver in the finale. It wouldn't even matter if they beat Indy or not.

KC would get in due to their better division record over SD and a better conference record than PIT.

Here would be the situation going into the final week:

1) Pitt would be 9-6 (presuming they lost to CHI or MIN) needing both KC (9-6) AND SD (10-5) to lose.

2) KC would be 9-6 needing to beat CIN and DEN to win at SD.

IMPROBABLE? NO Here's why:

Denver at SD is on New Year's eve. Denver owns the tie breaker over CIN (better conf. record) for the #2 seed in the playoffs. Both liekly will be 12-3 going into the final week. They would need to beat SD to get a bye.

Should Denver win that game on that Saturday, CIN would be locked into the #3 playoff position regardless if they won or lost. Sinc ethe game is totally meaningless, and considering that they would play the following week in the playoffs, it is highly likely that most of CIN starters wouldn't play, giving KC a huge edge.

Of course that would set up the playoffs such that KC would travel to CIN on Wildcard weekend to try and beat the team that just laid down for rest.

**Rausch** · 12-06-2005, 07:06 AM

Bullshit!

We'll rip out assholes and strangle ****ers with colons!

keg in kc · 12-06-2005, 07:12 AM

Sorry, but I refuse to go into the next 4 games with this loser "if we lose the next two" bullshit defeatist attitude. Our destiny is in our hands. Win at least 3 of 4 and we're in. Period.

Hammock Parties · 12-06-2005, 07:31 AM

Well, Denver playing on Saturday certainly is a huge favor for KC regardless.

And maybe Sammy Knight can separate Chad Johnson's head from his shoulders.

donkhater · 12-06-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Sorry, but I refuse to go into the next 4 games with this loser "if we lose the next two" bullshit defeatist attitude. Our destiny is in our hands. Win at least 3 of 4 and we're in. Period.

I'm not taking a defeatest attitude. I'm just thinking of possible scenarios to get KC in the dance. It's better than talking about whether or not Garth Brooks is gay.

Here's an interesting twist:

Say KC wins at either Dallas or NYG and the rest of the regular season plays out like above.

The last game vs. CIN would be meaningless. Both CIN and KC would have clinched their playoff berths AND seeding and KC could rest some players for the wildcard game.

IN essence, KC would get a bye week with a 10-6 or 11-5 record.

**BigRedChief** · 12-06-2005, 08:44 AM

We also get a first round playoff bye if we win out and Denver loses to the Raiders or the Chargers.

ct · 12-06-2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We also get a first round playoff bye if we win out and Denver loses to the Raiders or the Chargers.

Now that's what I'm talkin about!!

Molitoth · 12-06-2005, 08:52 AM

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We also get a first round playoff bye if we win out and Denver loses to the Raiders or the Chargers

Thats what I wanna see.

donkhater · 12-06-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We also get a first round playoff bye if we win out and Denver loses to the Raiders or the Chargers.

Actually, that is yet to be determined.

Should that scenario happen:

1. KC/DEN split the season series
2. Both are 4-2 in the division
3. Both are 10-4 in common games played
4. Both are 9-3 in the conference

It would come down to the fifth tie-breaker which is strength of victory, whoever's opponents has the highest winning percentage (in wins only). With 4 weeks to go, that is a toss up.

recxjake · 12-06-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

Clearly, I would love for KC to run the table. But this board doesn't have to go into meltdown mode should KC lose their next two games---as long as they win their last two home games.

For KC to make the playoffs under that scenario:

1) Denver would have to win out, including at SD. The schedule does us a favor, for once, more in a minute.

2) Pitt would have to lose one of their remaining games, it doesn't matter which one.

3) SD would have to lose at KC and vs. Denver in the finale. It wouldn't even matter if they beat Indy or not.

KC would get in due to their better division record over SD and a better conference record than PIT.

Here would be the situation going into the final week:

1) Pitt would be 9-6 (presuming they lost to CHI or MIN) needing both KC (9-6) AND SD (10-5) to lose.

2) KC would be 9-6 needing to beat CIN and DEN to win at SD.

IMPROBABLE? NO Here's why:

Denver at SD is on New Year's eve. Denver owns the tie breaker over CIN (better conf. record) for the #2 seed in the playoffs. Both liekly will be 12-3 going into the final week. They would need to beat SD to get a bye.

Should Denver win that game on that Saturday, CIN would be locked into the #3 playoff position regardless if they won or lost. Sinc ethe game is totally meaningless, and considering that they would play the following week in the playoffs, it is highly likely that most of CIN starters wouldn't play, giving KC a huge edge.

Of course that would set up the playoffs such that KC would travel to CIN on Wildcard weekend to try and beat the team that just laid down for rest.

i already gave thiis theory in my thread...... i agree that the saturday game for Denver is huge

Brock · 12-06-2005, 09:27 AM

BS. If the chiefs lose 2, it's over.

donkhater · 12-06-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

BS. If the chiefs lose 2, it's over.

Now there is a defeatist attitude. I've clearly outlined a scenario in which they could get in at 10-6. They could even rest their starters and lose the last game of the year to finish 10-6 and still get in. And it isn't even that outlandish.

Mr. Laz · 12-06-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

But this board doesn't have to go into meltdown mode should KC lose their next two games

bashers,meltdowns,negative nellies, not true fans...

laz
~sick to death of this lame crap~

Extra Point · 12-06-2005, 10:06 AM

We won't get in at 10-6. We must win 3 games, one of which must be SD.

FringeNC · 12-06-2005, 10:20 AM

We have a good enough team to win out. Now that Roaf is back, this is the 2003 Chiefs with a decent defense. Also, that win against Denver battle-tested these guys. We had the second best team in the league come into Arrowhead and play at the top of their game and we won in a back-and-forth battle.

Also, if we are to have any chance of making it to the SB, we almost have to have that #2 seed, and I think DV realizes that.

You're right, though, we could actually back into the playoffs if we beat the AFC teams. At this point, I don't want to contemplate that scenario. I think we are one of the best teams in football, and I think we are going to go into Dallas this weekend and kick their asses.

12-06-2005, 06:52 AM
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	KC may NOT have to win either of the next two games to get into the playoffs... Clearly, I would love for KC to run the table. But this board doesn't have to go into meltdown mode should KC lose their next two games---as long as they win their last two home games. For KC to make the playoffs under that scenario: 1) Denver would have to win out, including at SD. The schedule does us a favor, for once, more in a minute. 2) Pitt would have to lose one of their remaining games, it doesn't matter which one. 3) SD would have to lose at KC and vs. Denver in the finale. It wouldn't even matter if they beat Indy or not. KC would get in due to their better division record over SD and a better conference record than PIT. Here would be the situation going into the final week: 1) Pitt would be 9-6 (presuming they lost to CHI or MIN) needing both KC (9-6) AND SD (10-5) to lose. 2) KC would be 9-6 needing to beat CIN and DEN to win at SD. IMPROBABLE? NO Here's why: Denver at SD is on New Year's eve. Denver owns the tie breaker over CIN (better conf. record) for the #2 seed in the playoffs. Both liekly will be 12-3 going into the final week. They would need to beat SD to get a bye. Should Denver win that game on that Saturday, CIN would be locked into the #3 playoff position regardless if they won or lost. Sinc ethe game is totally meaningless, and considering that they would play the following week in the playoffs, it is highly likely that most of CIN starters wouldn't play, giving KC a huge edge. Of course that would set up the playoffs such that KC would travel to CIN on Wildcard weekend to try and beat the team that just laid down for rest.
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12-06-2005, 07:31 AM	#4
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12-06-2005, 07:12 AM	#3
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Sorry, but I refuse to go into the next 4 games with this loser "if we lose the next two" bullshit defeatist attitude. Our destiny is in our hands. Win at least 3 of 4 and we're in. Period.
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12-06-2005, 10:20 AM	#15
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1616014	We have a good enough team to win out. Now that Roaf is back, this is the 2003 Chiefs with a decent defense. Also, that win against Denver battle-tested these guys. We had the second best team in the league come into Arrowhead and play at the top of their game and we won in a back-and-forth battle. Also, if we are to have any chance of making it to the SB, we almost have to have that #2 seed, and I think DV realizes that. You're right, though, we could actually back into the playoffs if we beat the AFC teams. At this point, I don't want to contemplate that scenario. I think we are one of the best teams in football, and I think we are going to go into Dallas this weekend and kick their asses.
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