Cardinals ***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread*** - Page 93

**BigRedChief** · 04:18 PM

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.

SI article on our off season, Gives us a "A". ??:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/02/12/win...ouis-cardinals

2015 III thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=295296
2015 II thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293412
2015 I thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289085

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-09-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Didn't Mo sell him as a 6th/7th inning type of guy when he was signed? He's just a 9th inning desperation choice.

Since the baseball america mid season rankings came out, I've been doing some reading on our prospects. It seems that we again have some major league level talent in the pipeline.

Whats your opinion on our farm system and players?

I haven't followed the system very closely of late, and can't offer any kind of informed opinion on who is ready and how it stacks up as a whole.

**BigRedChief** · 07-10-2016, 02:12 PM

Alex Reyes to start the All-Star futures game today at 7:00 pm eastern time, Watch the game on the MLB network or on MLB.com.

Mi_chief_fan · 07-10-2016, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Alex Reyes to start the All-Star futures game today at 7:00 pm eastern time, Watch the game on the MLB network or on MLB.com.

He represented well:
@LangoschMLB Alex Reyes works around a 3B with three swinging strikeouts -- one on 88 mph changeup, another on 99 mph fastball, last on 101 mph fastball.

bdj23 · 07-10-2016, 06:14 PM

https://vine.co/v/5WIUJnwbugJ

Alex Reyes strikes out Dansby Swanson

**BigRedChief** · 07-10-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

He represented well:
@LangoschMLB Alex Reyes works around a 3B with three swinging strikeouts -- one on 88 mph changeup, another on 99 mph fastball, last on 101 mph fastball.

He could be our closer right now. Take the same path as Waino.

He threw a 99 fastball on the black knee high like he was throwing batting practice. Easy delivery and threw 3 101 mph fastballs in the first inning. Curve ball looks to be a 12/6 level. Fastball/curve is good enough for a closer.

He can work on his control and change up off the mound in St. Louis. But, that article in STL said that he has never pitched more than 109 innings in a year. If we are going to ask him to start in 2017, he needs to get his innings up this year.

Mi_chief_fan · 07-10-2016, 07:23 PM

Leave him in Memphis until rosters expand. Give him a couple of starts in September. This team's going nowhere, no need to waste a year of control on false hope.

VAChief · 07-10-2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He could be our closer right now. Take the same path as Waino.

He threw a 99 fastball on the black knee high like he was throwing batting practice. Easy delivery and threw 3 101 mph fastballs in the first inning. Curve ball looks to be a 12/6 level. Fastball/curve is good enough for a closer.

He can work on his control and change up off the mound in St. Louis. But, that article in STL said that he has never pitched more than 109 innings in a year. If we are going to ask him to start in 2017, he needs to get his innings up this year.

He isn't consistent enough yet, his stuff is great, but moving up to St Louis now would be bigger risk than reward. We need him to be a can't miss starter. let him continue at Memphis at least until September call ups and even then low leverage situations to begin.

Rams Fan · 07-10-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He could be our closer right now. Take the same path as Waino.

He threw a 99 fastball on the black knee high like he was throwing batting practice. Easy delivery and threw 3 101 mph fastballs in the first inning. Curve ball looks to be a 12/6 level. Fastball/curve is good enough for a closer.

He can work on his control and change up off the mound in St. Louis. But, that article in STL said that he has never pitched more than 109 innings in a year. If we are going to ask him to start in 2017, he needs to get his innings up this year.

That's not remotely close to the same path Waino took.

Waino was in the bullpen full time in 2006 before Izzy went down.

If anything, asking Reyes to be a reliever initially and then move to the rotation would be like Lynn.

**BigRedChief** · 07-10-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

Leave him in Memphis until rosters expand. Give him a couple of starts in September. This team's going nowhere, no need to waste a year of control on false hope.

We would not lose a year of control. That date has passed.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-10-2016, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We would not lose a year of control. That date has passed.

Yeah, but his clock still starts. If you don't bring him up until late April in 2017 you'd have him for another year.

Rams Fan · 07-10-2016, 09:20 PM

In fact, this whole calling up starters as relievers thing in September isn't as common as I think it is with the Cardinals.

Who have the Cardinals done that with?
Lynn
Gonzalez?
Miller
Martinez

Rosenthal was called up as a reliever after being a starter, but never started a game.

**BigRedChief** · 07-10-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, but his clock still starts. If you don't bring him up until late April in 2017 you'd have him for another year.

Like the Cubs did with Bryant. Makes sense.

If we had a chance to do something in the playoffs, I could see burning a year. But, this year? Just leave him in the minors and work on the control and change up.

Losing a year of a pitcher with a possible Cy Young ceiling may be worth $50 million a year the way salaries are sky rocketing 6 years from now.

**BigRedChief** · 07-10-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

That's not remotely close to the same path Waino took.

Waino was in the bullpen full time in 2006 before Izzy went down.

If anything, asking Reyes to be a reliever initially and then move to the rotation would be like Lynn.

Dude, I was just talking about being a reliever first in the bullpen then starting the next year.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-10-2016, 11:28 PM

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Brent Williams · 07-11-2016, 06:12 PM

Carson Kelly was promoted to AAA today.

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