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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

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Old 07-24-2012, 07:31 PM   #5941
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You're right but we at least got something for him and something was all we were going to get. Take it and take the chance that it works out without having expectations and if it doesn't work then we're no worse off. JMO.
This is a good perspective.

My fear is that Guthrie will be mentioned as a possible solution for next year, but this is baseless at present.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:35 PM   #5942
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My fear is that Guthrie will be mentioned as a possible solution for next year, but this is baseless at present.
27 years of being a punchline doesnt count?
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This is a good perspective.

My fear is that Guthrie will be mentioned as a possible solution for next year, but this is baseless at present.
Unless he proves this year that he should be in the mix next year then he shouldn't be. I hope that isn't what they're expecting. It would be nice to have found another Paulino but it's doubtful. Trade crap for crap and hope the new crap smells less and it the new crap turns out to be better then you did something right(er) at least. Maybe I'm just too glad to have Sanchez away from the team.
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My fear is that Guthrie will be mentioned as a possible solution for next year, but this is baseless at present.
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Unless he proves this year that he should be in the mix next year then he shouldn't be. I hope that isn't what they're expecting. It would be nice to have found another Paulino but it's doubtful. Trade crap for crap and hope the new crap smells less and it the new crap turns out to be better then you did something right(er) at least. Maybe I'm just too glad to have Sanchez away from the team.
But this is part of the problem. Paulino seemed like a great find. Pitchers who can get the swing and miss aren't everywhere.

However, if you "count" on a pitcher whom you literally found in the trash, you're going to get burned. Evidence A: Our Time. We need to learn from this mistake.

I don't care if Guthrie strings together several good starts in a worthless second half; he's not an answer for '13. That doesn't exclude him from developing into one next year, but we cannot start the year with this faulty assumption.
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So, Odorizzi was getting knocked around pretty good early in the game tonight, though his line didn't reflect it. The camera feed was literally one distant angle canted off behind the screen, so I really couldn't see how his pitches were shaped. He got a couple good punchouts. That's all I got.
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Guthrie could be a solid 5...Royals can't keep finding garbage shit. man up trade your own pitcher in the minors to get established guys. None of our SP has even come close from the minors to panning out
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But this is part of the problem. Paulino seemed like a great find. Pitchers who can get the swing and miss aren't everywhere.

However, if you "count" on a pitcher whom you literally found in the trash, you're going to get burned. Evidence A: Our Time. We need to learn from this mistake.

I don't care if Guthrie strings together several good starts in a worthless second half; he's not an answer for '13. That doesn't exclude him from developing into one next year, but we cannot start the year with this faulty assumption.
I don't anticipate Guthrie magically figuring shit out at 34. Just me though.
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But this is part of the problem. Paulino seemed like a great find. Pitchers who can get the swing and miss aren't everywhere.

However, if you "count" on a pitcher whom you literally found in the trash, you're going to get burned. Evidence A: Our Time. We need to learn from this mistake.

I don't care if Guthrie strings together several good starts in a worthless second half; he's not an answer for '13. That doesn't exclude him from developing into one next year, but we cannot start the year with this faulty assumption.
I agree with all of that. I guess I didn't do a good job of explaining myself maybe. As I said I hope we aren't counting on him either. That would be a big mistake. If he turns out to become shinola instead of shit then great... we got something for Sanchez. If we didn't then move the hell right on.
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