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Old 03-28-2013, 06:22 PM   #1
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Yeah...I went ahead and read it.

I agree with his analysis, I just disagree with his conclusion. You're right - he says the same things I said about Geno 4 months ago; his lower half is just not that good and he falls in love with touch passes on throws he needs to fire in there (in all honesty, I'm not convinced he watched the tape - I think he just cribbed my posts).

All that said - why does that preclude him from being a high pick?

He has a flaw in his leg drive that he needs to work on. And for the record, it looked better during the combine and pro days, so I believe Weinke has helped in that regard.

I feel like Prisco's fallen into the "Luck" trap, just like so many others before him. If a QB isn't a perfect, polished prospect, then he's not worth taking high because "He's not Andrew Luck".

That's just not a fair bar.

Nothing he says from an analysis standpoint is unfair, but his application of the analysis is just wrong-headed.
This is exactly how I felt. The greatest fallacy is the whole "not worth a top ten pick" nonsense. So, he's worth 11 but not 10? Why the arbitrary cutoff? What makes 11 so different from 9? The extra digit? Why not "not worth a top 13 pick but 14 is okay"? Or top 37 but not 38?
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:37 PM   #2
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This is exactly how I felt. The greatest fallacy is the whole "not worth a top ten pick" nonsense. So, he's worth 11 but not 10? Why the arbitrary cutoff? What makes 11 so different from 9? The extra digit? Why not "not worth a top 13 pick but 14 is okay"? Or top 37 but not 38?
It's probably for the incredibly simple reason that he doesn't have him ranked as a top ten player, your potential disagreement notwithstanding.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:51 PM   #3
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This is exactly how I felt. The greatest fallacy is the whole "not worth a top ten pick" nonsense. So, he's worth 11 but not 10? Why the arbitrary cutoff? What makes 11 so different from 9? The extra digit? Why not "not worth a top 13 pick but 14 is okay"? Or top 37 but not 38?
Prisco didn't say he was worth 11 but not 10. You can carry this line of thinking to absurdity and conclude that every player draft able is worth the 1.1. At some point, I trust, even you would distinguish between a pick worthy of 1.1 and one only worthy of a lesser pick. So where is your cut-off?
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:15 PM   #4
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I take some comfort from the fact that EVERYONE thought Russell Wilson was not NFL ready and that he was a late round pick. Some thought the Seahawks were crazy for taking him so early.

He did not compare favorably to Andrew Luck, so he was not worthy of an early round pick. The same fools are saying the thing about every other QB they have seen since Luck. Wilson has proven he had first round talent. Could Geno suffer from the same?
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:55 PM   #5
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I take some comfort from the fact that EVERYONE thought Russell Wilson was not NFL ready and that he was a late round pick.
This is complete and utter BULLSHIT.

Teams shied away from Russell Wilson due to the fact that he's only 5'11.

NO ONE said anything about his leadership skills, athleticism, arm strength, etc.

Goddammit, stop talking out of your ass.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:17 PM   #6
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Isn't Prisco the one that said Matt Cassel was a better passer than Tony Romo?
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When? Prisco has hated all things Kansas City for a while. He's been really anti SP since he got here. I think most Geno lovers would find themselves agreeing with a lot of Priscos views.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:33 PM   #9
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When? Prisco has hated all things Kansas City for a while. He's been really anti SP since he got here. I think most Geno lovers would find themselves agreeing with a lot of Priscos views.
I was wrong. I asked him and he said it wasn't him. My bad.
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Pete Prisco sounds like a porn name.
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I legitimately like Matt Barkley.

But every post of yours about Geno just spews forth all kinds of period blood. It makes me hate the dude when I shouldn't.
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Who is Pete Prisco, and more importantly, why do we care what he says? Douche.
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Who is Pete Prisco, and more importantly, why do we care what he says? Douche.
He's actually a pretty knowledgable dude, and he calls shit how he see's it. Even if he's wrong.
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Pete Prisco is the same choad who had this to say.

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No. 75: Seahawks select: Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin

Why does Seattle take him? They paid Matt Flynn and have two others. Strange pick.

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His understanding of team needs and QB's is piss poor.
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Pete Prisco is the same choad who had this to say.



His understanding of Football is piss poor.
Fixed it for ya.
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