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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 03-08-2017, 04:37 PM   #2566
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There's no way they got an insurance policy on Soria with his injury history.

The folks that were writing those policies stopped doing so or made them prohibitively expensive years ago. At most, you get tiny little policies that partially cover injuries with exclusions all over the place.

Most guys are covered for accidents off the field these days, but virtually nobody (especially pitchers) are insured against actual pitching injuries anymore. The incident rates are just way too high to effectively pool the risk without charging so much for the policy that it's just not worthwhile for the teams to purchase them.
They had one on Vargas.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:55 PM   #2567
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:25 PM   #2568
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I can't imagine paying $17 million for 50 innings is much of a best case scenario.
It's better than paying $17 million for 130 innings, 20 losses, 4.5 ERA, and a whip of 1.5.
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Old 03-08-2017, 10:21 PM   #2569
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I know Ned said he was going to do this. I just don't really get it.
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:58 AM   #2570
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Outstanding article on JD Martinez over at FG. How he transformed from a shitty 4th OF into an all star masher. We here suggested it might've been thanks to the miracle of science but he says it's because he started hitting fly balls all the time. Just like Josh Donaldson did to change his career. (Eric Hosmer, listen!!!!)




In 2016, batters hit .241 with a .715 slugging mark and a wRC+ of 139 on fly balls versus a .238 average, .258 slugging mark and of wRC+ of 27 on ground balls.

"My swing was a line drive [back to] the pitcher,” Martinez said. “I’d go out there and hit the ball perfectly, and it’s [a] single. Why is my perfect swing a single?

“You still talk to coaches ‘Oh, you want a line drive right up the middle. Right off the back of the [L-screen in batting practice].’ OK, well that’s a ****ing single. To me, the numbers don’t lie. The balls in the air play more.”
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/j-d-m...point-is-near/
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:08 AM   #2571
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Outstanding article on JD Martinez over at FG. How he transformed from a shitty 4th OF into an all star masher. We here suggested it might've been thanks to the miracle of science but he says it's because he started hitting fly balls all the time. Just like Josh Donaldson did to change his career. (Eric Hosmer, listen!!!!)




In 2016, batters hit .241 with a .715 slugging mark and a wRC+ of 139 on fly balls versus a .238 average, .258 slugging mark and of wRC+ of 27 on ground balls.

"My swing was a line drive [back to] the pitcher,” Martinez said. “I’d go out there and hit the ball perfectly, and it’s [a] single. Why is my perfect swing a single?

“You still talk to coaches ‘Oh, you want a line drive right up the middle. Right off the back of the [L-screen in batting practice].’ OK, well that’s a ****ing single. To me, the numbers don’t lie. The balls in the air play more.”
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/j-d-m...point-is-near/
There is a huge shift in philosophies, the line drive up the middle aka Gary Ward approach is losing favor. Here is Josh Donaldson trashing the technique.

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2014/11/22/...on-via-twitter
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:16 AM   #2572
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Hoz was #2 of 146 qualifiers in groundball rate, surrounded by the Denard Spans, Yunel Escobars, Brett Gardners of the world. And STILL hit 25 jacks. With his power he should be 30+ for the next 5 years easy


Good news: it's something you can change. See others. FG suspects someone is going to tap into this when they sign Hosmer
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:22 AM   #2573
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FG suspects someone is going to tap into this when they sign Hosmer
They'd need to negotiate the resignation of his brother as his personal hitting coach.
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:25 AM   #2574
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Gut feeling. This will happen once Hos signs to a big market team and disappoints his first year. Once he's not the face of a small market franchise and is getting BLITZED with criticism from a big market, he'll be spurred into a change.

I doubt it happens in KC. He's a star here, I don't think he sees any real reason to change his game.
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:52 AM   #2575
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There is a huge shift in philosophies, the line drive up the middle aka Gary Ward approach is losing favor. Here is Josh Donaldson trashing the technique.

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2014/11/22/...on-via-twitter
I do think that Donaldson is one of the last people that should be telling people how to hit.

For the vast majority of people that try that extremely exaggerated 'hip load' thing he does, that's just going to create too much noise in their swing.

Now don't get me wrong, that 2nd guy is an absolute idiot. He's essentially teaching people how to lock themselves up - it's the Jason Heyward school of killing your natural power (someone should seriously find who started teaching Heyward to swing a bat in 2013 and murder him. Slowly). But there's a massive middle ground between what that goofy idiot is teaching and what Donaldson does (which for me would feel completely out of control).

I don't think most people can hit like Donaldson. I don't think it would hurt to try as an extreme attempt at changing your swing plane but I think most people, to sustain success, would end up gravitating towards a middle ground.

Donaldson's swing is just raw force; it's a fun swing to be able to manage but A) I don't think it will age well (whereas a guy who's swing I absolutely love - Beltran's - has aged well precisely because I think it is technically damn near perfect) and B) Very few guys have the kind of bat control to actually make that work. His ability to guide the bathead with that front arm locked and with that severe weight transfer tells me that he has some of the most powerful yet flexible wrists in the game.

Sure, it may have been a mechanical adjustment that allowed him to capitalize on that, but it's still just raw physical ability that allows him to succeed with it, an ability that most don't have.
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Gut feeling. This will happen once Hos signs to a big market team and disappoints his first year. Once he's not the face of a small market franchise and is getting BLITZED with criticism from a big market, he'll be spurred into a change.

I doubt it happens in KC. He's a star here, I don't think he sees any real reason to change his game.
Hosmer's hands aren't that fast. He could make some changes that would allow him to unlock some power, but it would come at the expense of something else.

I don't see anything Hosmer can do to that would be akin to what Donaldson did - changes that just made him a flat out better hitter. Hosmer can make himself a different hitter, but I just don't think the physical ability is there to be a true all-around, dynamic offensive force.

Hosmer has the eye to be great but I don't know that the physical tools are there as a hitter. Moustakas, OTOH, could be a .285 hitter with 30 HR pop. With him I just eventually start to wonder if injuries haven't cost him too much development time and/or the basic elasticity that allows these guys to really transfer power through their core.
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Funny thing: JD ranked #3 of 146 in BABIP (.378) despite hitting all those fly balls. Hosmer, if you're worried about your batting avg suffering when you stop pounding the ball into the ground, don't
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:35 AM   #2578
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Funny thing: JD ranked #3 of 146 in BABIP (.378) despite hitting all those fly balls. Hosmer, if you're worried about your batting avg suffering when you stop pounding the ball into the ground, don't
Yeah but last year Martinez's fly ball percentage also fell a ton from the year before. And in the two years with Detroit where he's had a fairly typical FB rate, he's had a BABIP of about .380 (which is crazy). In the year his FB rate went up, his BABIP dropped by about 30 point.

He's still a fly ball hitter, but let's not act like he's Brandon Moss out there. Martinez in most years has presented a pretty average batted ball profile; with the exception of his 2015 season, his remaining career has been that of an almost dead average 'style' hitter. He's not an extreme fly ball hitter by any stretch. He's just a pretty normal hitter who manages to hit the ball quite hard.

If you're hitting fly balls, your BABIP will either drop or is a product of raw dumb luck. It's the nature of the batted ball profile - by it's very definition, a fly ball in play is going to be caught a hell of a lot more often than not.

But the question is whether or not a swing that is looking for more fly balls will A) put more of them over the fence and B) turn some of those grounders into line-drives (with their crazy-high BABIP; something like .700 IIRC).

It's just odd to see Martinez saying "screw fly ball rates; fly balls are good" when in fact, he's not really a fly ball hitter. He's just a guy that hits the ball really goddamn hard.
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Sounds like you're using chicken-and-egg reasoning. Is he hitting it harder leading to my flyballs, or is he trying to hit more fly balls and swinging harder?


He started lofting the ball concurrent when he started pulling it. Which is what many of us have been screaming at Hos. Pull the damn ball! Quit protecting 2-2 and slapping oppo field singles. That's for Nori Aoki and Alcides
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Hosmer's hands aren't that fast. He could make some changes that would allow him to unlock some power, but it would come at the expense of something else.

I don't see anything Hosmer can do to that would be akin to what Donaldson did - changes that just made him a flat out better hitter. Hosmer can make himself a different hitter, but I just don't think the physical ability is there to be a true all-around, dynamic offensive force.

Hosmer has the eye to be great but I don't know that the physical tools are there as a hitter. Moustakas, OTOH, could be a .285 hitter with 30 HR pop. With him I just eventually start to wonder if injuries haven't cost him too much development time and/or the basic elasticity that allows these guys to really transfer power through their core.
Hos could definitely take some noise out of his swing. This has been an issue since his rookie season and he's shown no desire to change it.

Making his swing more compact won't make him into Donaldson, but it will likely help cut down his patented two month slump where he goes full Kolton Wong. If he maintains his .850/.875 OPS he's flashed at different points in almost every season since he came to the Royals, he'd become a much more reliable component to any team.

His defense needs just as much work, and is set to decline rapidly with age (his refusal to rely on fundamentals due to his quick hands is going to start hurting soon). Time will tell if he's willing to change either of these flaws in his game, and he's been happy to let his sheer athleticism hide his deficits up to this point.

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