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O'Brien is catching?!? I'll bet that's interesting to see!
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03-08-2017, 07:25 PM | #2568 |
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It's better than paying $17 million for 130 innings, 20 losses, 4.5 ERA, and a whip of 1.5.
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03-08-2017, 10:21 PM | #2569 |
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03-09-2017, 08:58 AM | #2570 |
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Outstanding article on JD Martinez over at FG. How he transformed from a shitty 4th OF into an all star masher. We here suggested it might've been thanks to the miracle of science but he says it's because he started hitting fly balls all the time. Just like Josh Donaldson did to change his career. (Eric Hosmer, listen!!!!)
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03-09-2017, 09:08 AM | #2571 | |
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03-09-2017, 09:16 AM | #2572 |
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Hoz was #2 of 146 qualifiers in groundball rate, surrounded by the Denard Spans, Yunel Escobars, Brett Gardners of the world. And STILL hit 25 jacks. With his power he should be 30+ for the next 5 years easy
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03-09-2017, 09:22 AM | #2573 |
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They'd need to negotiate the resignation of his brother as his personal hitting coach.
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03-09-2017, 10:25 AM | #2574 |
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Gut feeling. This will happen once Hos signs to a big market team and disappoints his first year. Once he's not the face of a small market franchise and is getting BLITZED with criticism from a big market, he'll be spurred into a change.
I doubt it happens in KC. He's a star here, I don't think he sees any real reason to change his game. |
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For the vast majority of people that try that extremely exaggerated 'hip load' thing he does, that's just going to create too much noise in their swing. Now don't get me wrong, that 2nd guy is an absolute idiot. He's essentially teaching people how to lock themselves up - it's the Jason Heyward school of killing your natural power (someone should seriously find who started teaching Heyward to swing a bat in 2013 and murder him. Slowly). But there's a massive middle ground between what that goofy idiot is teaching and what Donaldson does (which for me would feel completely out of control). I don't think most people can hit like Donaldson. I don't think it would hurt to try as an extreme attempt at changing your swing plane but I think most people, to sustain success, would end up gravitating towards a middle ground. Donaldson's swing is just raw force; it's a fun swing to be able to manage but A) I don't think it will age well (whereas a guy who's swing I absolutely love - Beltran's - has aged well precisely because I think it is technically damn near perfect) and B) Very few guys have the kind of bat control to actually make that work. His ability to guide the bathead with that front arm locked and with that severe weight transfer tells me that he has some of the most powerful yet flexible wrists in the game. Sure, it may have been a mechanical adjustment that allowed him to capitalize on that, but it's still just raw physical ability that allows him to succeed with it, an ability that most don't have.
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I don't see anything Hosmer can do to that would be akin to what Donaldson did - changes that just made him a flat out better hitter. Hosmer can make himself a different hitter, but I just don't think the physical ability is there to be a true all-around, dynamic offensive force. Hosmer has the eye to be great but I don't know that the physical tools are there as a hitter. Moustakas, OTOH, could be a .285 hitter with 30 HR pop. With him I just eventually start to wonder if injuries haven't cost him too much development time and/or the basic elasticity that allows these guys to really transfer power through their core.
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03-09-2017, 11:22 AM | #2577 |
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Funny thing: JD ranked #3 of 146 in BABIP (.378) despite hitting all those fly balls. Hosmer, if you're worried about your batting avg suffering when you stop pounding the ball into the ground, don't
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He's still a fly ball hitter, but let's not act like he's Brandon Moss out there. Martinez in most years has presented a pretty average batted ball profile; with the exception of his 2015 season, his remaining career has been that of an almost dead average 'style' hitter. He's not an extreme fly ball hitter by any stretch. He's just a pretty normal hitter who manages to hit the ball quite hard. If you're hitting fly balls, your BABIP will either drop or is a product of raw dumb luck. It's the nature of the batted ball profile - by it's very definition, a fly ball in play is going to be caught a hell of a lot more often than not. But the question is whether or not a swing that is looking for more fly balls will A) put more of them over the fence and B) turn some of those grounders into line-drives (with their crazy-high BABIP; something like .700 IIRC). It's just odd to see Martinez saying "screw fly ball rates; fly balls are good" when in fact, he's not really a fly ball hitter. He's just a guy that hits the ball really goddamn hard.
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03-09-2017, 12:32 PM | #2579 |
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Sounds like you're using chicken-and-egg reasoning. Is he hitting it harder leading to my flyballs, or is he trying to hit more fly balls and swinging harder?
He started lofting the ball concurrent when he started pulling it. Which is what many of us have been screaming at Hos. Pull the damn ball! Quit protecting 2-2 and slapping oppo field singles. That's for Nori Aoki and Alcides |
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Making his swing more compact won't make him into Donaldson, but it will likely help cut down his patented two month slump where he goes full Kolton Wong. If he maintains his .850/.875 OPS he's flashed at different points in almost every season since he came to the Royals, he'd become a much more reliable component to any team. His defense needs just as much work, and is set to decline rapidly with age (his refusal to rely on fundamentals due to his quick hands is going to start hurting soon). Time will tell if he's willing to change either of these flaws in his game, and he's been happy to let his sheer athleticism hide his deficits up to this point. Last edited by Chiefspants; 03-09-2017 at 02:17 PM.. |
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