Whitlock: Peterson drowning in river of denial

tk13 · 04-21-2005, 01:07 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/11445941.htm

Peterson drowning in river of denial

JASON WHITLOCK

You don't have to be Mel Kiper Jr. to figure out why the Kansas City Chiefs struggle in the draft.

Carl Peterson is no different from you or me. Denial and a lack of discipline make him prone to repeat the same mistake.

Peterson is no different from the overweight man or woman who hops on the Internet, researches the top fad diets, learns everything he/she needs to know about shedding 20 or 30 pounds and then quickly fails to execute once the menu is passed around at The Peach Tree.

Seriously, when you think of Peterson camped inside the “war room” this Saturday contemplating the 15th pick in the draft, think of your kind, gold-hearted friend who hits the basement of Mi Cocina on a Saturday night only hours after crying about getting used by groupies and playas.

“I just like to dance,” your friend says while passing out a phone number to everyone except the busboy.

Yes, Carl Peterson likes to dance on draft day. It's the Super Bowl for NFL general managers and team presidents. The problem for Chiefs fans is Peterson dances like no one's looking. He's in total denial that the Chiefs have a problem on draft day.

Wednesday afternoon, Peterson and his longtime, primary dance partner Lynn Stiles met with the media and discussed Miami cornerback Patrick Surtain, Saturday's draft and, most interestingly, for a brief moment whether Peterson was aware that Chiefs fans were dissatisfied with the way he and his scouting department perform on Super Bowl Saturday.

“You know something, we have 72,000 season-ticket holders,” Peterson said. “We've renewed 95 percent of those people again this year. I haven't had a letter or a fax or a phone call from any of those people. And I haven't, honest to goodness, I haven't had any letters from outside of that, if you want to say, sphere of what I consider real Kansas City Chiefs fans, because they step up each year and put their money down and say, ‘I'm here to see the Chiefs.'

“So, candidly, the criticism comes from some of the media,” Peterson went on. “I've even got it at this point (after) 16 years, and I don't consider it criticism. I consider it speculation. And that's what they get paid to do, speculate. And I respect that.”

Here's some more media speculation: Peterson is lost in denial. There are boatloads of Kansas City Chiefs fans irate about his inability to perform on draft day, and he's convinced himself that because they still buy tickets they're unaware of his draft failure.

Hey, people read my newspaper column. Therefore, I'm not 5 to 6 pounds overweight. Problem solved. You follow?

It's like your cousin who swears he doesn't have a drug or alcohol problem because he hasn't missed a day of work in five years. Never mind the fact that he has two out-of-wedlock, one-night-stand kids whom he yells at for no reason when he's hung over.

What makes matters so frustrating when it comes to Peterson is he's been through years and years of counseling. He knows what to do on draft day. He spends months traveling the country preparing for his annual Super Bowl. He's been burned so many times — Trezelle Jenkins, Ryan Sims, Junior Siavii, Eddie Freeman, Greg Hill, Sylvester Morris, Harvey Williams, Kawika Mitchell — that he really has no excuse for screwing up.

The Chiefs generally get burned in the first two rounds of the draft when Peterson chooses to go with potential over production. Stiles fell in love with Jenkins' wingspan and 6-foot-8 frame. The Chiefs should forbid Stiles from ever using a measuring tape.

“Personally, I look at production,” Peterson said when asked how he balances a prospect's potential versus his college production. “… Potential can get you into trouble.”

You see? Peterson knows what to do. He gets in the war room and panics. There's a lot of pressure in the war room. It's no different from stepping to the free-throw line with only a few seconds on the clock and the game hanging in the balance.

The college production of Sims, Siavii and Freeman never matched their talent. Should we be surprised that they have experienced or are experiencing the same problems here?

But, again, the Chiefs are in denial. On Wednesday Peterson defended the play of Sims and Siavii, suggesting it's much too early to call either a “bust.” It's not too early to suggest that neither player helped the Chiefs last season. At one point Stiles basically said the only problem with last year's draft was that Kris Wilson got hurt and the coaching staff didn't put Samie Parker on the field early enough.

Stiles could be right. But it doesn't explain why a team with such horrifying defensive talent wasted picks on two offensive players a year ago. See, when you're trapped in denial, even when you do something right, it turns out to be wrong.

Let me show Carl Peterson the way. Hi, my name is Jason Whitlock, and I'm a recovering Gates-aholic. It's been two days since my last presidential platter.

keg in kc · 04-21-2005, 01:32 AM

I don't think I've ever come across such a self-absorbed, self-promoting individual in any media. And that's really saying something, because ego drives that business.

Wallcrawler · 04-21-2005, 01:48 AM

Whitlock can be irritating, but sometimes, he's not only right, but funny as hell also.

He's definately right about one thing, Carl Peterson IS in denial if he thinks that the Chiefs fanbase is happy with the way that this organization has drafted on his watch.

Just because ticketholders show up to see the Chiefs play on Sunday doesnt mean that they are happy about the way the offseasons have gone.

Carl is mistaking loyalty to the Chiefs for approval of what he has done in the offseason.

keg in kc · 04-21-2005, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stinger

He's definately right about one thing, Carl Peterson IS in denial if he thinks that the Chiefs fanbase is happy with the way that this organization has drafted on his watch.

I listened to the press conference live, and I thought that everything Peterson said that was referred to in this column (and on the radio here in KC) about the fanbase was tongue-in-cheek. I thought he was being self-effacing. In all, he said what you'd expect and want a GM to say in the same situation. I don't like that he's still here, and I hope we draft well finally, but I'm not sure what people expect from him. He's not going to stand up and say "yes, folks, we can't draft for shit, we just give up for this year" and he's not going to throw any of his players under the bus (Sims and Siavii).

Truth is, I don't think it matters what he says. A lot of people just hate the guy and they'll tear him apart nomatter what he says, right or wrong.

Wallcrawler · 04-21-2005, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't like that he's still here, and I hope we draft well finally, but I'm not sure what people expect from him. He's not going to stand up and say "yes, folks, we can't draft for shit, we just give up for this year" and he's not going to throw any of his players under the bus (Sims and Siavii).

He needs to explain himself, for sure. Its been well documented here at Chiefsplanet, so Im sure the general media and number crunchers know this also, that the Chiefs have absolutely SUCKED in the second round under Carl Peterson, and with the opportunity to actually land a pro bowl player with that 2nd rounder, he certainly needs to explain with a bit more clarity why he thinks that somehow this year is going to be the year worth passing over a stud corner for a simple roll of the dice. Im really curious as to the manner of thinking behind this. Pro bowl corners dont grow on trees, and the Chiefs havent had one since Hasty left. Especially with Gunther here, who knows the value of a great corner, I cant see what the justification is rolling the dice on a rookie instead of taking the proven player.

It just screams "Classic Carl fuggup."

Im sure he knows how bad theyve been in the second round. The least he could do is acknowledge it instead of making it out like they have been successful every year. I could see the reasoning behind keeping the pick if the team were drafting like the Patriots have been, but they havent been close to doing that.

I dont expect him to throw Sims under the bus, but this talking about giving him a couple more seasons to prove his worth is ridiculous, and anyone who has watched the Chiefs play since he got here has got to be wondering what the F is going through Carl's mind when he said that. The guy went what, number 6 overall? Or was it number 8? Either way, the guy was a top 10 pick who hasnt done a damn thing since he's been here. How many years exactly does it take for a top 10 pick to find his way in the NFL? I wasnt aware it took 5 or 6 years.

Hearing Carl talk in this fashion simply makes him look more ridiculous than I already thought he was. It really makes him look like he doesnt have the slightest clue as to what the F is going on with his football team, and with no explanation behind these actions, there really isnt any other way to view him other than "typical Carl with his head jammed straight up his ass."

Taco John · 04-21-2005, 03:03 AM

That sound you hear coming from the Mid-West is steam releasing from Rufus Dawes ears as he fires up the ole 'puter for some righteous PR justice.

Taco John · 04-21-2005, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I listened to the press conference live, and I thought that everything Peterson said that was referred to in this column (and on the radio here in KC) about the fanbase was tongue-in-cheek. I thought he was being self-effacing. In all, he said what you'd expect and want a GM to say in the same situation. I don't like that he's still here, and I hope we draft well finally, but I'm not sure what people expect from him. He's not going to stand up and say "yes, folks, we can't draft for shit, we just give up for this year" and he's not going to throw any of his players under the bus (Sims and Siavii).

Truth is, I don't think it matters what he says. A lot of people just hate the guy and they'll tear him apart nomatter what he says, right or wrong.

I'm suprised that "the buck stops here" isn't a bigger part of the bash Carl lexicon around this place... I mean you see it now and again in someone's signature... But not nearly with the frequency that you'd imagine.

I mean, I guess I can see why not though... He's obviously isn't being held accountable for those words, and he certainly isn't holding himself accountable. But, Carl is one of those guys like Marty Schottenheimer who are perpetually turning the corner. They may never make it quite all the way around, but for some reason, the future always looks just bright enough to believe that there is light somewhere at the end of the tunnel.

I suppose that's about where we are with Shanahan right now too except that Shanahan has delivered twice already.

And Shanahan has never busted out the "Real Fan" card...

Wow.

keg in kc · 04-21-2005, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stinger

He needs to explain himself, for sure. Its been well documented here at Chiefsplanet, so Im sure the general media and number crunchers know this also, that the Chiefs have absolutely SUCKED in the second round under Carl Peterson

He’s sucked in every round, not just the second. However, and I’ve said this over and over and over, I don’t care how he’s done in the second round in the past; that’s irrelevant with regards to the trade. If you want to pull the trigger because that’s what you think Surtain’s value is, that’s fine. But you don’t make the trade just because you don’t think you can draft somebody good with that pick because you're incompetent. That's a defeatist attitude and I don't want that from anybody in my franchise. They've got to believe their next pick is a pro bowler.

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and with the opportunity to actually land a pro bowl player with that 2nd rounder, he certainly needs to explain with a bit more clarity why he thinks that somehow this year is going to be the year worth passing over a stud corner for a simple roll of the dice. ….I cant see what the justification is rolling the dice on a rookie instead of taking the proven player.

It just screams "Classic Carl fuggup."

I haven’t seen any indication that we’re just “passing over” Surtain. If that was the case, we wouldn’t be negotiating at all.

Maybe it’s easier for me because this is exactly the way I expected it to go. I never thought the trade would be made before draft weekend (I’ve said as much for weeks and weeks) so I’ve never felt much panic. The fact is, there was absolutely no reason for either team to do the deal before now, and there’s absolutely no reason to be worried about the fact that it hasn’t happened yet. Now, two days from now…that’s another story. If this isn’t done late Friday, then I’ll start to worry. A little. But, really, until I see Surtain suiting up for work in another uniform, I’m not going off. I’m not going to declare this a failure until there actually is one. For instance: the Rolle signing? Disgraceful. The Hartwell signing? A little disappointing but not really much of a surprise.

That’s really the main problem I have with all the Surtain (fan/radio) talk: we haven’t lost out on the trade yet. Regardless of what past history says or what people’s gut feelings are, the simple fact is we’re still negotiating and it can still happen. It may end up being a “classic carl fuggup”. But it may not. Nothing is written in stone and for whatever reason nobody can be patient. We’re all jumping the gun, assuming the worst.

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I dont expect him to throw Sims under the bus, etc.

This is it for Sims, for me. He should have performed by now, picked as high as he was, but I have always given guys 3-4 years to prove themselves. It’s a shame he hasn’t, and he’s as close to being a ‘bust’ as you can be.

Hopefully he’ll step up. Maybe improving the talent will help him along with everyone else.

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Hearing Carl talk in this fashion simply makes him look more ridiculous than I already thought he was. It really makes him look like he doesnt have the slightest clue as to what the F is going on with his football team, and with no explanation behind these actions, there really isnt any other way to view him other than "typical Carl with his head jammed straight up his ass."

I guess this is just where I see it differently. I do not like Carl as the GM, he’s failed repeatedly in the draft for his entire tenure here. But I would do exactly what he’s doing with this trade. To me – for a number of reasons, there’s absolutely no reason to do it any differently. Maybe in the end we have to pay the asking price. And maybe we don’t. Maybe it’s a little risky, but I have no problem with that. As long as, in the end, we get Surtain.

And if we don't, it's yet another fuck up....

elvomito · 04-21-2005, 03:21 AM

jason whitlock takes jabs at himself from time to time to make you think he's showing humility and not an arrogant guy. in theory it works.

However, i think it is really important for carl to know that people buy season tickets because we love the chiefs, not because of anything about him.
Carl thats why when you do things to our chiefs, [walken]we want to prank you for long hours in the basement.[/walken]

keg in kc · 04-21-2005, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

But, Carl is one of those guys like Marty Schottenheimer who are perpetually turning the corner. They may never make it quite all the way around, but for some reason, the future always looks just bright enough to believe that there is light somewhere at the end of the tunnel.

I think you're giving him more credit than he deserves. Although maybe I'm jaded because in seven years here I've seen *one* solid winning season, the 13-3 in '03. But turning a corner? We've been treading water. But maybe you're right. Maybe people have had false hope around here. I think that's done now, though, judging by what I hear on the radio. Nobody is happy, nobody at all. And if we miss on Surtain...wow.

Although I will say that adding Surtain to the moves we've made this offseason, with the addition of a solid draft, probably gives us a chance to compete for the division title. Hope again, I guess. Although that's as much a statement about how weak I think the division is as anything else.

From where I'm sitting, though, it won't take a whole lot to earn the Chiefs a reprieve in Kansas City. I think we win one playoff game and there'll be a collective sigh of relief. Which is kind of sad, actually. We'd probably die of an orgasmic overdose if we actually won a Superbowl.

keg in kc · 04-21-2005, 05:20 AM

Okay, I just heard the clip from the press conference again, and I was thinking about a totally different part before. I didn't even hear the bit about 'real fans'. Jesus christ, I know season ticket holders who've sent letters, and former season ticket holders. Which means either Carl has people screening his letters so he only sees positive ones or he's outright lying. What a stupid, stupid thing to say. Good move, to insult and alienate a major segment of your fanbase, man. 'course, it isn't the first time. Piss on the media, right?

**Bob Dole** · 04-21-2005, 05:48 AM

Not being a season ticket holder and thus, not a real Chiefs fan, Bob Dole is in no position to comment.

Big Chief Homer · 04-21-2005, 05:54 AM

Anyone got an address where i can send a letter or email to Peterson.Im alittle insulted by the "real fan" comment.While I live to far away to go to every home game and probably coudnt afford season tickets(trying to raise a family).

I spend my fair share on the kansas city chiefs.I find that comment extremely insulting.Between the nfl sunday ticket,team memorbilia,jerseys,hats,cards and countless hours of my life i know feel wasted following this team.I consider my self a REAL FAN.I would love to be at Arrowhead on every opportunity,but its just not feesable.I on the other hand DO attend games that are within a good driving distance,but i guess fair whether fans like myself should just stay home.

siberian khatru · 04-21-2005, 06:15 AM

Carl, I've followed the team thru thick and thin for 30 years, I subscribe to Sunday Ticket so I can watch the Chiefs every Sunday, I buy Chiefs collectibles and wear Chiefs clothing out in public, promoting the team. I don't think you should marginalize me just because I happen to live 1,000 miles away from Arrowhead and don't lead a lifestyle that allows me to fly into KC 8 Sundays a year to watch them in person.

jspchief · 04-21-2005, 06:19 AM

The "real fan" comment just reinforces what I've said all along. Carl Peterson doesn't understand the scope of fans their team reaches. It's like he lives in a little bubble that just surrounds KC. Those comments go hand in hand with a weekly article on their "international" website, dedicated to counter-attacks in the local pissing match with the media. Memo to Carl: there is more to a professional football team than the 78,000 seats you are trying to fill.

Whitlock is spot on in 90% of this article. I think he's a sh*tbag, and the newspaper version of a shock jock, but this article is valid. The only place he loses me is when he calls Siavii a bust. You just can't say that after only one year.

04-21-2005, 01:07 AM
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2002500	Whitlock: Peterson drowning in river of denial http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/11445941.htm Peterson drowning in river of denial JASON WHITLOCK You don't have to be Mel Kiper Jr. to figure out why the Kansas City Chiefs struggle in the draft. Carl Peterson is no different from you or me. Denial and a lack of discipline make him prone to repeat the same mistake. Peterson is no different from the overweight man or woman who hops on the Internet, researches the top fad diets, learns everything he/she needs to know about shedding 20 or 30 pounds and then quickly fails to execute once the menu is passed around at The Peach Tree. Seriously, when you think of Peterson camped inside the “war room” this Saturday contemplating the 15th pick in the draft, think of your kind, gold-hearted friend who hits the basement of Mi Cocina on a Saturday night only hours after crying about getting used by groupies and playas. “I just like to dance,” your friend says while passing out a phone number to everyone except the busboy. Yes, Carl Peterson likes to dance on draft day. It's the Super Bowl for NFL general managers and team presidents. The problem for Chiefs fans is Peterson dances like no one's looking. He's in total denial that the Chiefs have a problem on draft day. Wednesday afternoon, Peterson and his longtime, primary dance partner Lynn Stiles met with the media and discussed Miami cornerback Patrick Surtain, Saturday's draft and, most interestingly, for a brief moment whether Peterson was aware that Chiefs fans were dissatisfied with the way he and his scouting department perform on Super Bowl Saturday. “You know something, we have 72,000 season-ticket holders,” Peterson said. “We've renewed 95 percent of those people again this year. I haven't had a letter or a fax or a phone call from any of those people. And I haven't, honest to goodness, I haven't had any letters from outside of that, if you want to say, sphere of what I consider real Kansas City Chiefs fans, because they step up each year and put their money down and say, ‘I'm here to see the Chiefs.' “So, candidly, the criticism comes from some of the media,” Peterson went on. “I've even got it at this point (after) 16 years, and I don't consider it criticism. I consider it speculation. And that's what they get paid to do, speculate. And I respect that.” Here's some more media speculation: Peterson is lost in denial. There are boatloads of Kansas City Chiefs fans irate about his inability to perform on draft day, and he's convinced himself that because they still buy tickets they're unaware of his draft failure. Hey, people read my newspaper column. Therefore, I'm not 5 to 6 pounds overweight. Problem solved. You follow? It's like your cousin who swears he doesn't have a drug or alcohol problem because he hasn't missed a day of work in five years. Never mind the fact that he has two out-of-wedlock, one-night-stand kids whom he yells at for no reason when he's hung over. What makes matters so frustrating when it comes to Peterson is he's been through years and years of counseling. He knows what to do on draft day. He spends months traveling the country preparing for his annual Super Bowl. He's been burned so many times — Trezelle Jenkins, Ryan Sims, Junior Siavii, Eddie Freeman, Greg Hill, Sylvester Morris, Harvey Williams, Kawika Mitchell — that he really has no excuse for screwing up. The Chiefs generally get burned in the first two rounds of the draft when Peterson chooses to go with potential over production. Stiles fell in love with Jenkins' wingspan and 6-foot-8 frame. The Chiefs should forbid Stiles from ever using a measuring tape. “Personally, I look at production,” Peterson said when asked how he balances a prospect's potential versus his college production. “… Potential can get you into trouble.” You see? Peterson knows what to do. He gets in the war room and panics. There's a lot of pressure in the war room. It's no different from stepping to the free-throw line with only a few seconds on the clock and the game hanging in the balance. The college production of Sims, Siavii and Freeman never matched their talent. Should we be surprised that they have experienced or are experiencing the same problems here? But, again, the Chiefs are in denial. On Wednesday Peterson defended the play of Sims and Siavii, suggesting it's much too early to call either a “bust.” It's not too early to suggest that neither player helped the Chiefs last season. At one point Stiles basically said the only problem with last year's draft was that Kris Wilson got hurt and the coaching staff didn't put Samie Parker on the field early enough. Stiles could be right. But it doesn't explain why a team with such horrifying defensive talent wasted picks on two offensive players a year ago. See, when you're trapped in denial, even when you do something right, it turns out to be wrong. Let me show Carl Peterson the way. Hi, my name is Jason Whitlock, and I'm a recovering Gates-aholic. It's been two days since my last presidential platter.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I don't think I've ever come across such a self-absorbed, self-promoting individual in any media. And that's really saying something, because ego drives that business.
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04-21-2005, 01:48 AM	#3
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4252912	Whitlock can be irritating, but sometimes, he's not only right, but funny as hell also. He's definately right about one thing, Carl Peterson IS in denial if he thinks that the Chiefs fanbase is happy with the way that this organization has drafted on his watch. Just because ticketholders show up to see the Chiefs play on Sunday doesnt mean that they are happy about the way the offseasons have gone. Carl is mistaking loyalty to the Chiefs for approval of what he has done in the offseason. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say. Last edited by Wallcrawler; 04-21-2005 at 02:29 AM..
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elvomito ☻☺ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ♠█♠ Casino cash: $10004900	jason whitlock takes jabs at himself from time to time to make you think he's showing humility and not an arrogant guy. in theory it works. However, i think it is really important for carl to know that people buy season tickets because we love the chiefs, not because of anything about him. Carl thats why when you do things to our chiefs, [walken]we want to prank you for long hours in the basement.[/walken]
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04-21-2005, 05:20 AM	#11
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Okay, I just heard the clip from the press conference again, and I was thinking about a totally different part before. I didn't even hear the bit about 'real fans'. Jesus christ, I know season ticket holders who've sent letters, and former season ticket holders. Which means either Carl has people screening his letters so he only sees positive ones or he's outright lying. What a stupid, stupid thing to say. Good move, to insult and alienate a major segment of your fanbase, man. 'course, it isn't the first time. Piss on the media, right?
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04-21-2005, 05:54 AM	#13
Big Chief Homer Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: offseason hell Casino cash: $10009985	Anyone got an address where i can send a letter or email to Peterson.Im alittle insulted by the "real fan" comment.While I live to far away to go to every home game and probably coudnt afford season tickets(trying to raise a family). I spend my fair share on the kansas city chiefs.I find that comment extremely insulting.Between the nfl sunday ticket,team memorbilia,jerseys,hats,cards and countless hours of my life i know feel wasted following this team.I consider my self a REAL FAN.I would love to be at Arrowhead on every opportunity,but its just not feesable.I on the other hand DO attend games that are within a good driving distance,but i guess fair whether fans like myself should just stay home. __________________ “I’m at the prime of my career right now. I’m living life and doing the best I can do right now. We have a really good team on paper, we just have to get the chemistry down and put it all together. There’s no ceiling for Derrick Johnson.”
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04-21-2005, 06:15 AM	#14
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2564950	Carl, I've followed the team thru thick and thin for 30 years, I subscribe to Sunday Ticket so I can watch the Chiefs every Sunday, I buy Chiefs collectibles and wear Chiefs clothing out in public, promoting the team. I don't think you should marginalize me just because I happen to live 1,000 miles away from Arrowhead and don't lead a lifestyle that allows me to fly into KC 8 Sundays a year to watch them in person.
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04-21-2005, 06:19 AM	#15
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	The "real fan" comment just reinforces what I've said all along. Carl Peterson doesn't understand the scope of fans their team reaches. It's like he lives in a little bubble that just surrounds KC. Those comments go hand in hand with a weekly article on their "international" website, dedicated to counter-attacks in the local pissing match with the media. Memo to Carl: there is more to a professional football team than the 78,000 seats you are trying to fill. Whitlock is spot on in 90% of this article. I think he's a sh*tbag, and the newspaper version of a shock jock, but this article is valid. The only place he loses me is when he calls Siavii a bust. You just can't say that after only one year. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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