The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Hai guys. We can wait till Round 4 and pick up the 8th ranked QB. Think of da value waiting 3 rounds to get our starter entails!!!

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Please explain to me how taking yet another LT (when we already have a LT & RT as well as young depth at the position) will make the team better?

How "valuable" is a pick that doesn't make your team any better?

Is a LT going to magically make the Chiefs score more points? How about an OLB? Are we going to score more points with a pass rusher? Is that what you consider "value"? Taking a player that will have little to no impact on our roster?

Imo, that's not value....that's wasting a draft pick.

EXACTLY.

****.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

I've got to say that this is one of the absolute best trolling efforts in a LONG, LONG time

This comment is made every week or so. There have been a number of very good trolls recently. I don't this is one. I don't think he is a troll and overall I don't think he is a bad poster. He is just venturing too far into the water.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

By all means Frankie, please explain to me WHO the chiefs are going to trade down with, and WHY would a team want to trade up with them?

Hrmmm?

I have said many times that a trade down partner most likely isn't out there. I was hoping the combine would produce one. But it didn't.

[Marvin49]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Tell us... what position and player wouldn't be a reach at #1 overall in this year's draft?

Now THAT is a good conversation.

Personally, I like Joeckel, Fisher, Floyd, and Warmack.

I dunno if you can take a guard that high tho. OMG...I'd LOVE to get Floyd on the Niners, but no chance in hell there. Justin Smith is getting up there in age.

I dunno what the Chiefs specific team need are tho so if those aren't positions of need, try to trade down where maybe Smith might still be sitting there.

Thats what I would do....but again...the only opinions that matter are the guys in the draft room.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

Jeez...

What's with all the venom man? I'm just a fellow football fan giving my opinion. I got nothing against the Chiefs...in fact I have a special hatred in my heart for all things Silver and Black so I really kinda root for KC every year.

I'm not your opponent here.

I'm just saying that I don't think you should reach for a QB. I think most people who fallow the draft would tell you the exact same thing.

And we're just saying... in a draft that doesn't have an obvious and elite talent, that has about 10-15 guys that would be mid-1st picks in most years, none that would be top 10, and about 30 that would be late-first early second, there ISN'T a reach pick.

If Geno Smith is good enough to go 15th in this draft, he's good enough to go first.

Luke Joeckel is NOT a no-doubt franchise LT. He's not Walter Jones/Orlando Pace/Jon Ogden. Heck, he's probably not even Joe Thomas or Jake Long. And he's not the clear top LT. There is less separation between Joeckel and Fisher at this time than Geno and Barkley. Hell, there's less separation between Joeckel and Lane Johnson than Geno and Barkley.

There isn't a stud pass-rusher. Everyone has warts (and bigger ones than Geno at QB - Warner is raw and not an impact guy. Jones has spinal stenosis. And Moore is not an elite athlete).

Dee Milliner is a nice CB, but he isn't Shawn Springs or even Patrick Peterson.

If JaDaveon Clowney was in this draft, sure, you draft him and don't look back. Or you find an easy trade down partner, accumulate some more picks, and draft the guy you want at a pick a little further down.

But that's not the case. Who is a team going to trade into the first spot for? Joeckel? Why do that, when you can wait 4-5 more picks and get Fisher? Milliner? Come on. He's not that type of corner.

So take the trade down off the table. It's just like the Niners... stuck at 7 with Aldon Smith. Take the guy you want, who you know won't be there later, and don't look back.

The Chiefs don't NEED at OT or an OL, period. They have a strong, young offensive line that can all be retained easily. They don't NEED an OLB (two Pro Bowl players at that position, one locked in long-term and one young and cheap).

The only pick that makes sense and holds VALUE is QB.

[Marvin49]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I have said many times that a trade down partner most likely isn't out there. I was hoping the combine would produce one. But it didn't.

You might be right. It should be easier now to make that trade since the new CBA limits the $$$.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

Jeez...

What's with all the venom man? I'm just a fellow football fan giving my opinion. I got nothing against the Chiefs...in fact I have a special hatred in my heart for all things Silver and Black so I really kinda root for KC every year.

I'm not your opponent here.

I'm just saying that I don't think you should reach for a QB. I think most people who fallow the draft would tell you the exact same thing.

**** you. u cant walk into a place all high and mighty suggest a bunch of shit that is worse because u are uneducated about the involved team and not expect any heat

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I have said many times that a trade down partner most likely isn't out there. I was hoping the combine would produce one. But it didn't.

Then why are you saying he hit the nail on the head?

Clearly, the head was missed, wasn't it?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Suggesting we take a LT when there is Albert or suggesting we take a LT and move Albert to RT isn't falling on deaf ears, it's falling on ears that hear it and realize it doesn't make sense.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I have said many times that a trade down partner most likely isn't out there. I was hoping the combine would produce one. But it didn't.

So you're basically exhausting every opportunity you can find to avoid admitting that taking a QB is the best course of action...

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Marvin49

Now THAT is a good conversation.

Personally, I like Joeckel, Fisher, Floyd, and Warmack.

I dunno if you can take a guard that high tho. OMG...I'd LOVE to get Floyd on the Niners, but no chance in hell there. Justin Smith is getting up there in age.

I dunno what the Chiefs specific team need are tho so if those aren't positions of need, try to trade down where maybe Smith might still be sitting there.

Thats what I would do....but again...the only opinions that matter are the guys in the draft room.

I'll help you.

NONE of those are a position of need for the Chiefs. Not one.

We don't need a LT. We don't need a Guard.

next....

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

He's not going to go undrafted.

People with low Ejection Fraction are in danger of sudden heart failure. One minute you are talking to them on the phone, the next minute you don't hear a voice. They just drop dead out of nowhere. Try to translate that to the football field. Do you think there are many teams risking on a player who might drop dead on the field at any time?

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Suggesting we take a LT when there is Albert or suggesting we take a LT and move Albert to RT isn't falling on deaf ears, it's falling on ears that hear it and realize it doesn't make sense.

I agree. Many of the other points he's made about how the 49ers built their team though do not go unnoticed. Everyone here wants the "magic bullet", understandably.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

VALUE!!!!!!!!