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Bill Reiter: Is Cassel the one player the Chiefs have sought all these years?
Is Cassel the one player the Chiefs have sought all these years?
By BILL REITER The Kansas City Star The last true franchise quarterback to wear a Kansas City Chiefs jersey is already here, sitting where important men sit: in a nearly enclosed, oversized booth, watching waitresses with pleasant smiles hum by and men in business suits strain to catch his words. “They’ve been unable to draft or develop a quarterback,” Len Dawson says. “They’ve tried. They’ve just been unable.” This is how far back you have to look to catch a glimpse of what Matt Cassel might become: All the way to the 1960s and Lenny The Cool, he of the Super Bowl ring, the bronzed-tan glow of the good life, the loving looks of folks who remember winning ways and the special place you get to inhabit if you earn the mantle of franchise quarterback. A franchise quarterback also happens to be the one ingredient any general manager hoping to play alchemist needs if he’s to turn a 2-14 embarrassment into a winning organization. “How important are franchise quarterbacks? You aren’t successful without one!” Dick Vermeil says. “You get by, but you don’t get better. You don’t win big.” Former Chiefs center Tim Grunhard agrees: “That’s what young people are looking for. They want a hero, a hero they can believe in, a guy they can go in the backyard and when they play football say, ‘I’m Matt Cassel.’ We’ve been told time and time again that these guys were going to come in, be the guy, be the face, be the resurrection of the Kansas City Chiefs. And it’s never worked. Never.” Dawson was the last player to have come in, been the man, resurrected the franchise and brought home the trophy. Joe Montana was very good at the end of his career, and Trent Green put in five very fine — at times fantastic — full seasons. But Montana could only take the Chiefs to the AFC Championship, and Green led his team to only two winning seasons. But those names don’t matter anymore. One does: Matt Cassel, he of one good season in New England, a college career without a single start and a contract reportedly worth $63 million, designating him the guy who must lead this town’s football team until at least 2014. “He hit the mother lode, huh?” Dawson says with a raised eyebrow and quick smirk. The old legend nods his head and lets his blue eyes go back in time to when he — like Cassel — hovered between obscurity and greatness. The smirk fades. Something closer to a man knowing how much luck plays a part in life emerges in its place. “You’ve got to earn some respect,” he says. “You’ve got to have some talent around you. You have to have some ability. You’ve got to have the chance to play.” Dawson wants to say how his story offers hope that Matt Cassel can be the real deal, but first we must acknowledge that the Chiefs’ history since Dawson requires — to say the least — some cautious optimism. Let’s start there. ••• Jack Steadman laughs with the rueful insight of a man who’s made his choices and learned to live with them. He had just been asked the question that’s haunted this team off and on — mostly on — since Dawson retired in 1975: What went wrong with finding the next long-term Chiefs quarterback? “That’s been our fault, frankly, since our Super Bowl in 1970,” Steadman says. “We just never developed a franchise quarterback. And that has been a major concern of mine with our scouting staff and coaching staffs ever since.” Those years cover some rather unpleasant ground, a space of history comprised of players such as Mike Livingston, Tony Adams, Bill Kenney and Steve Fuller. “This is interesting for me, because Marv Levy and I really argued about that,” Steadman says. “He just didn’t think that the quarterback position was as important as other positions. But the interesting thing is: Once he got to Buffalo, he had a franchise quarterback who went to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.” That and four Super Bowl appearances. Which gets us to 1983, a place that — if you were mapping out Matt Cassel’s road to $63 million and a Kansas City-area ZIP code — may well mark the starting point. Ronald Reagan was president, “Billie Jean” had just slipped from the Billboard 100 No. 1 spot, and “Beat It” would soon take its place. Dan Marino and Jim Kelly were still available when the Chiefs made their selection with the No. 7 overall pick in the NFL draft. This was to be John Mackovic’s crowning moment, the birth of his empire. He had been brought in to develop a franchise quarterback, to give the Kansas City Chiefs a Lenny Dawson redux, and the greatest QB draft in history happened to pop up in his first year as head coach. One little problem. “Our scouts were really, really high on Marino, but John decided he wanted to meet with the players and find out which was going to be his franchise quarterback,” Steadman says. “So he went to meet with Marino and (Todd) Blackledge in Pennsylvania. And Marino stiffed him. Marino didn’t show.” This is where a quarterback’s chutzpah — that chip on the shoulder that stars are supposed to have — might have altered the arc of his career and the history of the franchise that didn’t choose him. “That made John mad,” Steadman says. “So then he went the next day to meet with Blackledge, and Blackledge showed up with a coat and tie on. And that’s who we selected.” Stedman again laughs ruefully. “And Blackledge just didn’t develop as the franchise quarterback.” So as Kelly, drafted at No. 14, was helping Levy dominate his division, and as Marino, drafted No. 27, began one of the finest careers in football history, the Chiefs became a sometimes good, never Super Bowl-capable, often rudderless franchise with a knack for filling stadiums and making do with three kinds of quarterbacks: •The first-round picks who just didn’t work out: Fuller and Blackledge and, later and deeper in the draft, Brodie Croyle. •The older quarterbacks with a strong pedigree — and some winning ways — but not enough years left to plan an organization around for the long term or win a Super Bowl in the short term: Steve DeBerg, Montana, Green. •The hot free-agents — the next big things — who, it turned out, weren’t: Think Elvis Grbac and the brief Warren Moon experiment. What the Chiefs didn’t have, ever, was that guy to build around deep into the future. ••• Until, perhaps, now. “It’s so important to have a person who your younger guys can say, ‘This is my guy I’ll have around for four or five years,’ ” Grunhard says. “And for the older guys, it shows a commitment to a guy the organization is behind. On both fronts, for the young and old guys, it sets a precedent. I’m hoping Matt can take that responsibility and be that guy for a long time, like Lenny was.” There’s an interesting comparison between Dawson and Cassel, one Dawson himself suggested. “For any of us, you’ve got to get your chance,” he says. Both men saw limited action in their first professional seasons: Dawson threw the ball four times; Cassel, 24. Dawson’s next two years saw him throw the ball only 13 times. For Cassel, years two and three produced 15 pass attempts. Both men languished in obscurity, known more for the men they played behind than their own play. And both men shared the prospect of sudden opportunity meeting a sign of great faith. For Dawson, who was nearly out of football, it came in the form of a last-ditch effort with the Dallas Chiefs and an injury to Cotton Davidson, whom Lamar Hunt then traded away — the first and only trade the former owner made. For Cassel, it was Tom Brady going down, having a breakout season and having millions of dollars heaped onto him. “I had to have an opportunity to play, and Cotton got hurt — kind of like Brady,” Dawson says. “If the guy’s winning and playing well, then you don’t make changes for the sake of changes. But (the Chiefs) were looking for a quarterback and knew the skills I had.” That’s because Hank Stram — a man who had coached Dawson in college, who had seen him prepare and play — was the team’s head coach. And Cassel, off his breakout season, had a similar patron in Scott Pioli. “If Brady hadn’t gotten hurt,” Dawson says, “(Cassel) still wouldn’t be playing.” The old legend smiles. Yes, he knows a thing or two about being underestimated — and about seizing that one chance, that one last hope, after you thought it would never arrive. Is Cassel the answer, finally, to the Kansas City Chiefs’ quarterback riddle? Dawson thinks just maybe. “Apparently, the preparation is there, from what I understand,” Dawson says. “He is prepared. And it starts with that, that he understands what they’re trying to accomplish. After that, leadership has to come with performance. On that, we’re going to find out.” |
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07-19-2009, 09:55 AM | #31 |
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Just pointing out for the circumstances at the time that "most" of us(Chief fans didn't know)that we can't blame Mac for that one 'now'.
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07-19-2009, 10:02 AM | #32 |
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It was not intended to call you out. The draft is a crap shoot and there were several teams who thought highly of Blackledge also.
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07-19-2009, 01:24 PM | #33 |
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Todd was thought to be better than Dan. It was very close and you can't fault the Chiefs for taking Todd, it wasn't reach at all.
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07-19-2009, 01:40 PM | #34 |
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Damn that was a good article.
Damnit Steadman!
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I enjoyed this article.
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Let's just go back to 2005 (since it takes a few years to properly analyze a draft pick) and look at the top ten for 2005-2000: 2005 Round Pick Player Name Team Position College 1 1 1 Alex D. Smith 49ers QB Utah 2 2 Ronnie Brown Dolphins RB Auburn 3 3 Braylon Edwards Browns WR Michigan 4 4 Cedric Benson Bears RB Texas 5 5 Cadillac Williams Buccaneers RB Auburn 6 6 Pacman Jones Titans DB West Virginia 7 7 Troy Williamson Vikings WR South Carolina 8 8 Antrel Rolle Cardinals DB Miami (FL) 9 9 Carlos Rogers Redskins DB Auburn 10 10 Mike Williams Lions WR USC 2004 Round Pick Player Name Team Position College 1 1 1 Eli Manning Chargers QB Mississippi 2 2 Robert Gallery Raiders T Iowa 3 3 Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals WR Pittsburgh 4 4 Philip Rivers Giants QB North Carolina State 5 5 Sean Taylor Redskins DB Miami (FL) 6 6 Kellen Winslow Jr Browns TE Miami (FL) 7 7 Roy Williams Lions WR Texas 8 8 DeAngelo Hall Falcons DB Virginia Tech 9 9 Reggie Williams Jaguars WR Washington 10 10 Dunta Robinson Texans DB South Carolina 2003 Round Pick Player Name Team Position College 1 1 1 Carson Palmer Bengals QB USC 2 2 Charles Rogers Lions WR Michigan State 3 3 Andre Johnson Texans WR Miami (FL) 4 4 Dewayne Robertson Jets DT Kentucky 5 5 Terence Newman Cowboys DB Kansas State 6 6 Johnathan Sullivan Saints DT Georgia 7 7 Byron Leftwich Jaguars QB Marshall 8 8 Jordan Gross Panthers T Utah 9 9 Kevin Williams Vikings DE Oklahoma State 10 10 Terrell Suggs Ravens DE Arizona State 2002 Round Pick Player Name Team Position College 1 1 1 David Carr Texans QB Fresno State 2 2 Julius Peppers Panthers DE North Carolina 3 3 Joey Harrington Lions QB Oregon 4 4 Mike Williams Bills T Texas 5 5 Quentin Jammer Chargers DB Texas 6 6 Ryan Sims Chiefs DT North Carolina 7 7 Bryant McKinnie Vikings T Miami (FL) 8 8 Roy Williams Cowboys DB Oklahoma 9 9 John Henderson Jaguars DT Tennessee 10 10 Levi Jones Bengals T Arizona State 2001 Round Pick Player Name Team Position College 1 1 1 Michael Vick Falcons QB Virginia Tech 2 2 Leonard Davis Cardinals T Texas 3 3 Gerard Warren Browns DT Florida 4 4 Justin Smith Bengals DE Missouri 5 5 LaDainian Tomlinson Chargers RB Texas Christian 6 6 Richard Seymour Patriots DT Georgia 7 7 Andre Carter 49ers DE California 8 8 David Terrell Bears WR Michigan 9 9 Koren Robinson Seahawks WR North Carolina State 10 10 Jamal Reynolds Packers DE Florida State 2000 Round Pick Player Name Team Position College 1 1 1 Courtney Brown Browns DE Penn State 2 2 LaVar Arrington Redskins LB Penn State 3 3 Chris Samuels Redskins T Alabama 4 4 Peter Warrick Bengals WR Florida State 5 5 Jamal Lewis Ravens RB Tennessee 6 6 Corey Simon Eagles DT Florida State 7 7 Thomas Jones Cardinals RB Virginia 8 8 Plaxico Burress Steelers WR Michigan State 9 9 Brian Urlacher Bears LB New Mexico 10 10 Travis Taylor Ravens WR Florida Now, you'd think that, top ten, you're pretty safe. And obviously there are a lot of very solid players in there. But there are also a few medocrities and a couple of outright crappolas. These are multimillion-dollar franchises with dozens of highly intelligent and knowledgeable staffers with years of football experience, and they STILL make some picks that end up looking hilariously bad. |
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07-19-2009, 11:57 PM | #37 |
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This article doesn't give Trent Green enough credit. Sure he may not have been a "franchise QB", but he holds many of the Chiefs' all time passing statistical records and orchestrated the most productive offenses in franchise history.
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I am still a Bill Kenney fan. Not saying he was the answer, but he sure was not the problem. Surround him and the Chiefs would have had a hell of a team. |
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I'll concede that Matt Cassel's situation is pretty ideal in terms of being a guy who's already put his developmental "book time" on the bench behind him and because we need someone who can perform right away, and because he makes our GM and HC feel comfortable, but I do so because I'm excited about what and who will be coming up behind him when it's time to pass the torch along. Hopefully, when the time is right, the Chiefs will take the plunge again in round one, hopefully in the top 10 if the talent and price is right, and the end result is: We FINALLY start doing this right and giving the position the respect it deserves by beginning a long train of DEVELOPING our talent at the position IN-HOUSE.
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This shit is just stupid...
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We change policy! No more signing over-aged and over-priced scrubs! No more wasted draft picks! No more trading for back up QB's who produce on insanely talented offenses for a short ti-....... Wait...
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Look, there's no use in going over my personal feelings regarding the QB move we made this year; the deal is done. I'm not saying Cassel is a sure deal but if he does excel, it was the right deal not because he's "The Man"( whoo-hoo! do a homer dipshit dance ), but because his age gives us at least 5 years of solid play and the opportunity to bring a young pick in probably in the 2011 draft and start developing him the "Chiefs Way" instead of just grasping for straws like Carl and Marty.
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Exactly.
But we're starting right where every ****ing KC HC has for the last 15 years. Your B/U looked good, gimme' somma' 'dat... I'm not saying Cassel is a sure deal but if he does excel, it was the right deal not because he's "The Man."[/QUOTE] Well **** yeah! And if Deberg (I like him, but it makes a point,) Green, Girlbac, Gannon, or Bono ever won us $#it perhaps you'd have a point. But they haven't. In fact, you can play this game all day. Name me the QB traded away that later won a SB for that team. 2 Guys. 2 Guys did it. And Lenny Dawson doesn't count because he was ****ing 'leased" to us...
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"The Chiefs Way".
I have to expound upon this for a moment. New England roster maintenance, plus Haley vertical air game, plus Old School Steeler "win in the trenches": **** me that's awesome!
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