Chiefs 2012 Dexter McCluster touches thread - Page 5

Chiefnj2 · 08-28-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

If anything it's Cassel's fault for not throwing downfield more often, esp when he has 2 HUGE WR's.

1. He can't.
2. Bowe just returned.
3. Baldwin hasn't proven the ability to get open or catch the ball consistently.

jspchief · 08-28-2012, 01:54 PM

I've come around a little bit on McLackluster. His hands really impress me, he seems to catch everything. I also think he's a tough sonuvabitch.

The biggest problem so far has been how he's been used. Obviously they never intended him to carry the RB load that he was forced into last year. But more importantly it showed that he isn't particularly good at making people miss. I think the FO thought they were getting a Josh Cribbs, Devon Hester type of guy. A guy that you just had to find ways to get the ball in his hands. It's clear he doesn't fit that role.

So here we are left with the one thing he does well. Receiving. How long before defenses start thinking of him as a receiver? Probably not long. How long before defenses realize that Cassel only throws short? That book is written. How long before Dex gets blown up on a poorly thrown crossing pattern? Hope he likes smores, because LBs and safeties are gonna be camping in his receiving window. Besides that, his size makes him a smaller target for the QB, and Cassel needs the biggest targets he can get.

I think Dex very well could be a big part of the offense in the early part of the season. I don't expect it to last.

Micjones · 08-28-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I've come around a little bit on McLackluster. His hands really impress me, he seems to catch everything. I also think he's a tough sonuvabitch.

The biggest problem so far has been how he's been used. Obviously they never intended him to carry the RB load that he was forced into last year. But more importantly it showed that he isn't particularly good at making people miss. I think the FO thought they were getting a Josh Cribbs, Devon Hester type of guy. A guy that you just had to find ways to get the ball in his hands. It's clear he doesn't fit that role.

So here we are left with the one thing he does well. Receiving. How long before defenses start thinking of him as a receiver? Probably not long. How long before defenses realize that Cassel only throws short? That book is written. How long before Dex gets blown up on a poorly thrown crossing pattern? Hope he likes smores, because LBs and safeties are gonna be camping in his receiving window. Besides that, his size makes him a smaller target for the QB, and Cassel needs the biggest targets he can get.

I think Dex very well could be a big part of the offense in the early part of the season. I don't expect it to last.

Which just means defenses will have to play honest.
That'll create an opportunity for someone else.

jspchief · 08-28-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Which just means defenses will have to play honest.
That'll create an opportunity for someone else.

I agree. It should help open up our outside receivers.

beach tribe · 08-28-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I agree. It should help open up our outside receivers.

yup

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-28-2012, 03:00 PM

Get the calculators out. The little man will have folks deducting YAC yardage all season long!!

Reerun_KC · 08-28-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Get the calculators out. The little man will have folks deducting YAC yardage all season long!!

YAC are meaningless yards... Its how far the ball travels in the air... You know better than this...

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-28-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

YAC are meaningless yards... Its how far the ball travels in the air... You know better than this...

You're right I've never seen Brees or Brady benefit from YAC yardage to Sproles and Welker. All they do is chuck it deep and they are in the endzone without having to do a thing!! Thanks CP.

**RealSNR** · 08-28-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Get the calculators out. The little man will have folks deducting YAC yardage all season long!!

I hope he gets lots of YAC yards. Odds are he'll only receive the ball within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage most plays. We'll need YAC yards from him and lots of them.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-28-2012, 03:34 PM

Now I know why you have no name

whoman69 · 08-28-2012, 05:15 PM

It was clearly a pair of poor picks. We had two seconds that we used on an undersized specialty back and a return specialist corner whose ceiling was as a nickel back. With a team with as many holes as we had at the time, that's not a good return on your investment. That said, rooting against them is counterproductive.

Urc Burry · 08-28-2012, 08:09 PM

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-28-2012, 08:15 PM

It's the same with laughing at him for not matching Welker already. Wes didn't exactly light it up right out of the gate himself. 1 TD in his first 3 years combined and no more than 700 yards in a season. People don't use reality when comparing players.

Deberg_1990 · 08-29-2012, 06:46 AM

Another thing with Fans and this Wylie thing. I think sometimes we get too high of expecatations with players. Im sorry, most lower round draft picks dont just come into the NFL and "light it up" Just doesnt happen. Most lower round guys are developmental picks.

Micjones · 08-29-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Another thing with Fans and this Wylie thing. I think sometimes we get too high of expecatations with players. Im sorry, most lower round draft picks dont just come into the NFL and "light it up" Just doesnt happen. Most lower round guys are developmental picks.

Happens all the time in Chiefs Country.
We get a wild hair about a draft pick (I have one for Gray) and go nuts with what we think they can be in year one. Thing is, Wylie's a WR. That's one of the toughest positions in the NFL to transition into from college. Ask Jon Baldwin.

08-28-2012, 01:54 PM	#2
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I've come around a little bit on McLackluster. His hands really impress me, he seems to catch everything. I also think he's a tough sonuvabitch. The biggest problem so far has been how he's been used. Obviously they never intended him to carry the RB load that he was forced into last year. But more importantly it showed that he isn't particularly good at making people miss. I think the FO thought they were getting a Josh Cribbs, Devon Hester type of guy. A guy that you just had to find ways to get the ball in his hands. It's clear he doesn't fit that role. So here we are left with the one thing he does well. Receiving. How long before defenses start thinking of him as a receiver? Probably not long. How long before defenses realize that Cassel only throws short? That book is written. How long before Dex gets blown up on a poorly thrown crossing pattern? Hope he likes smores, because LBs and safeties are gonna be camping in his receiving window. Besides that, his size makes him a smaller target for the QB, and Cassel needs the biggest targets he can get. I think Dex very well could be a big part of the offense in the early part of the season. I don't expect it to last. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3768880	It's the same with laughing at him for not matching Welker already. Wes didn't exactly light it up right out of the gate himself. 1 TD in his first 3 years combined and no more than 700 yards in a season. People don't use reality when comparing players. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
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