Chiefs Peter King finally realizes Cassel sucks - Page 2

COchief · 10-08-2012, 08:45 AM

This is fantastic that a writer with the exposure that King wields finally has called Cassel/Pioli/Romeo out. I didn't think he would ever do it due to his affiliation with Pioli and past worship of "The Patriot Way". I have been emailing him on a weekly basis telling him that Cassel is terrible as I am sure many of you also have, looks like somebody (I am not taking credit, he probably gets thousands) finally got him to pay attention.

Hearing "This is the end" by The Doors in my head and smiling ear-to-ear.

Link:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...k-5/index.html

Excerpts:

5. The story in Kansas City is the treatment of Matt Cassel as much as the play of Matt Cassel. No NFL quarterback is slumping quite as badly as Cassel, who has been rated lower than 84 (which is mediocrity) in all five games of the 1-4 Chiefs start. So when he went down with a concussion, felled by a hard hit from Baltimore defensive tackle Haloti Ngata in the second half Sunday, the Chiefs heard some fans cheering. That prompted this from K.C. right tackle Eric Winston:
"When you cheer someone getting knocked out ... it's sickening. It's 100 percent sickening. I've been in some rough times on some rough teams, and I've never been more embarrassed in my life to play football than in that moment right there ... We're not gladiators. This is not the Roman Coliseum. It is not OK [to cheer a player getting hurt]. It is not OK."
I'm glad to hear a teammate say that instead of robotically saying the fans pay their money and they can do what they want. But as for the football side, Cassel is playing shellshocked right now, and Romeo Crennel should start backup Brady Quinn, who was 3 of 3 in brief duty Sunday, when the Chiefs go to Tampa Bay Sunday. It's much for Cassel's mental as his physical health. The Chiefs need to see if they can get anything going on offense while their season has a glimmer of hope left.

Goats of the Week

Matt Cassel, QB, Kansas City. Thirteen turnovers in the first 19 quarters of the year, and the 13th was clearly the most damaging Sunday against Baltimore. In a 3-3 game in the third quarter, Kansas City had the ball at the Baltimore 1, and Cassel, hurrying to get the ball so he could make a quarterback sneak, mishandled the snap from new center Ryan Lilja. Baltimore recovered, and was up 6-3 five minutes later.
Kansas City was inches from taking its first lead in regulation time of the season, and Cassel coughed it up. You could see on the replay how Cassel misplayed the situation by leaning forward before the ball was snapped. Just a huge error.

h. Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup.

Ace Gunner · 10-08-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

He clearly touched it.

100% on Matty.

I think you guys misunderstood my point. I'm saying Matt Cassel knocked Lilja over the ball before Lilja could even do the exchange.

Ultra Peanut · 10-08-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Pioli planted the seed and now his buddies are starting to run with the whole "it's mental, not physical", thing. That way Pioli can still say "Well, Matt had all the tools that's why I brought him here but you can never tell when it comes to the mental part."

Well played Scott

If he's that smart, why didn't he do that two years ago?

Not saying it's implausible (it's definitely a thing powerful people do when they **** up), just hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh so sick of Cassel.

COchief · 10-08-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

So a week ago in that Yahoo article, Pioli shakes the etch-a-sketch and transforms himself into a Cassel-doubter

I must have somehow missed this, can you provide a link? I searched but couldn't the article.

BigRock · 10-08-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

No Ed Reed came out and said he saw that audible coming from a mile away. Reed said its the exact same stuff that Tom Brady does to a T. But in this case it's Matt Cassel not Tom Brady, and Ed Reed was not only able to shoot the right gap but he jumped it. Ed Reed said hes seen that audible a million times playing the Patriots. The Ravens were 110% ready for that sneak. It's the Patriots Way and their schemes being the exact same pieces of shit that ****ed us. Not Ryan Lilja.

Reed said he recognized the play, but he didn't cause the fumble. He basically said it would have worked, the gap was open to sneak it, and as he came up he saw the ball on the ground.

BigRock · 10-08-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief

I must have somehow missed this, can you provide a link? I searched but couldn't the article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...rting-job.html

"Sources familiar with Pioli's thinking" say why of course Matt's just a backup. Scotty knew that all along.

mcaj22 · 10-08-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Reed said he recognized the play, but he didn't cause the fumble. He basically said it would have worked, the gap was open to sneak it, and as he came up he saw the ball on the ground.

yeah

"I knew it was a quarterback sneak," Reed said. "Me and Ray (Lewis) were yelling at each other, and I saw the ball come out. (The ball) hit his lineman, the center's leg, and I saw it come out."

They have seen it so many times that they were about to shoot that gap and punch him right in the mouth regardless of fumble, no fumble, etc. It's all about the scheme and play calling, and it's so bad that these guys saw it coming from a mile away.

tk13 · 10-08-2012, 11:16 AM

I don't know... most of the time a defense knows a QB sneak is coming. Or is ready for it in that situation. That's probably not a big deal. I'd say the whole omaha thing is probably bigger than that. They need to mix up the audibles and actually fake it every once in a while.
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FringeNC · 10-08-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--we...rting-job.html

"Sources familiar with Pioli's thinking" say why of course Matt's just a backup. Scotty knew that all along.

I saw that earlier. Preparing to throw Matt under the bus -- but why not pull Cassel earlier? It's obvious to me that Crennel and Daboll, like Haley, want no part of Matt Cassel. The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli. If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys? Pioli is one strange dude.

Hammock Parties · 10-08-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli.

Good.

Divided, they will fall.

BigRock · 10-08-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys?

Why not? They're the ones getting blamed for it. Between the Yahoo article and Peter King, there's no mention at all of Pioli's role in this. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The one who signed Cassel to the big contract and refused to bring in any competition."

The tone is "WTF's with Romeo and Daboll, why don't they bench Cassel already?" Like it's their fault.

Gameplans like Sunday might have been an FU to the old Scott Pioli. But this is the new Pioli, the one who knew all along that Cassel was a career backup. Exposing Cassel doesn't bother him. It just proves him right. He knew it all along. Gosh, what an eye for talent on that portly sumbitch.

Pioli's distancing himself from Cassel. His media pals are framing it where the coaches are to blame for Cassel still starting. It's everybody's fault but Pioli's. And according to Kent Babb, this is exactly the sort of stuff Scott rounds up and pleads his case to Clark with.

The zombie horde is approaching and Pioli's shooting everyone in the leg so that he can get away clean. He's got no loyalty to anyone but himself.

If this was The Sopranos, they'd find him out back by an Arrowhead dumpster with a dead rat in his mouth. Then the camera would zoom in and we'd see it was the same rat that Haley's wife had in her salad.

bishop_74 · 10-08-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

I saw that earlier. Preparing to throw Matt under the bus -- but why not pull Cassel earlier? It's obvious to me that Crennel and Daboll, like Haley, want no part of Matt Cassel. The game-plan yesterday, in my mind, was a big FU from Crennel and Daboll to Pioli. If Pioli knows Cassel is only a backup, why is he still forcing him on those guys? Pioli is one strange dude.

OR... just follow me for a sec on this one... OR, perhaps it wasn't a big FU to Pioli, and they just wanted to win the game so they eliminated Cassel from the equation. I would suggest the 3 amigos are far tighter than anyone suspects. Crennel and Dabol knew what was in their chilli before they started eating it.

FringeNC · 10-08-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Why not? They're the ones getting blamed for it. Between the Yahoo article and Peter King, there's no mention at all of Pioli's role in this. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! The one who signed Cassel to the big contract and refused to bring in any competition."

The tone is "WTF's with Romeo and Daboll, why don't they bench Cassel already?" Like it's their fault.

Gameplans like Sunday might have been an FU to the old Scott Pioli. But this is the new Pioli, the one who knew all along that Cassel was a career backup. Exposing Cassel doesn't bother him. It just proves him right. He knew it all along. Gosh, what an eye for talent on that portly sumbitch.

Pioli's distancing himself from Cassel. His media pals are framing it where the coaches are to blame for Cassel still starting. It's everybody's fault but Pioli's. And according to Kent Babb, this is exactly the sort of stuff Scott rounds up and pleads his case to Clark with.

The zombie horde is approaching and Pioli's shooting everyone in the leg so that he can get away clean. He's got no loyalty to anyone but himself.

If this was The Sopranos, they'd find him out back by an Arrowhead dumpster with a dead rat in his mouth. Then the camera would zoom in and we'd see it was the same rat that Haley's wife had in her salad.

CHunt would have to be one clueless MFer to not hold Pioli accountable for Cassel.

htismaqe · 10-08-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bishop_74

OR... just follow me for a sec on this one... OR, perhaps it wasn't a big FU to Pioli, and they just wanted to win the game so they eliminated Cassel from the equation. I would suggest the 3 amigos are far tighter than anyone suspects. Crennel and Dabol knew what was in their chilli before they started eating it.

Yep.

BigRock · 10-08-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

CHunt would have to be one clueless MFer to not hold Pioli accountable for Cassel.

I don't think for a second that Clark would buy it, which just makes it all the more delightful to see Pioli revealing his true colors as he desperately flails around to save himself.

BigChiefFan · 10-08-2012, 12:33 PM

So he pays a back-up, starting QB money and he gets a free pass? I don't think so.

10-08-2012, 08:45 AM
COchief Blame it on the Henne Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Donk-town Casino cash: $6883231	Peter King finally realizes Cassel sucks This is fantastic that a writer with the exposure that King wields finally has called Cassel/Pioli/Romeo out. I didn't think he would ever do it due to his affiliation with Pioli and past worship of "The Patriot Way". I have been emailing him on a weekly basis telling him that Cassel is terrible as I am sure many of you also have, looks like somebody (I am not taking credit, he probably gets thousands) finally got him to pay attention. Hearing "This is the end" by The Doors in my head and smiling ear-to-ear. Link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...k-5/index.html Excerpts: 5. The story in Kansas City is the treatment of Matt Cassel as much as the play of Matt Cassel. No NFL quarterback is slumping quite as badly as Cassel, who has been rated lower than 84 (which is mediocrity) in all five games of the 1-4 Chiefs start. So when he went down with a concussion, felled by a hard hit from Baltimore defensive tackle Haloti Ngata in the second half Sunday, the Chiefs heard some fans cheering. That prompted this from K.C. right tackle Eric Winston: "When you cheer someone getting knocked out ... it's sickening. It's 100 percent sickening. I've been in some rough times on some rough teams, and I've never been more embarrassed in my life to play football than in that moment right there ... We're not gladiators. This is not the Roman Coliseum. It is not OK [to cheer a player getting hurt]. It is not OK." I'm glad to hear a teammate say that instead of robotically saying the fans pay their money and they can do what they want. But as for the football side, Cassel is playing shellshocked right now, and Romeo Crennel should start backup Brady Quinn, who was 3 of 3 in brief duty Sunday, when the Chiefs go to Tampa Bay Sunday. It's much for Cassel's mental as his physical health. The Chiefs need to see if they can get anything going on offense while their season has a glimmer of hope left. Goats of the Week Matt Cassel, QB, Kansas City. Thirteen turnovers in the first 19 quarters of the year, and the 13th was clearly the most damaging Sunday against Baltimore. In a 3-3 game in the third quarter, Kansas City had the ball at the Baltimore 1, and Cassel, hurrying to get the ball so he could make a quarterback sneak, mishandled the snap from new center Ryan Lilja. Baltimore recovered, and was up 6-3 five minutes later. Kansas City was inches from taking its first lead in regulation time of the season, and Cassel coughed it up. You could see on the replay how Cassel misplayed the situation by leaning forward before the ball was snapped. Just a huge error. h. Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, down 6-3 in the third quarter, with a 3rd-and-12, called a draw play to Jamaal Charles. Guys, if you have zero faith in your quarterback, pull him and play the backup.
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