Chiefs Manti Te'o before a QB..... - Page 11

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-08-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

I think that game may have cost him a couple million dollars

Nah, The Combines would have done that, regardless.

TEX · 01-08-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't really see the physical skills there for Teo to go that high.

Basing your take on one game? Did ya happen to catch Geno's las one? Now I'm NOT saying to avoid Smith - I am saying don't judge a player by just one game, do it by the whole body of work.

bowener · 01-08-2013, 05:15 PM

I know this is kind of out of place in here, but it looks like Te'o might slide a bit and I was wondering if people thought with all the teams losing coaches this year, do you think there will be a ridiculous run on QBs early so that the new coach can get "his" quarterback? Would the chance of losing out on a QB if we trade back force Reid's hand to draft Geno (hopefully) at #1?

Rasputin · 01-08-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I know this is kind of out of place in here, but it looks like Te'o might slide a bit and I was wondering if people thought with all the teams losing coaches this year, do you think there will be a ridiculous run on QBs early so that the new coach can get "his" quarterback? Would the chance of losing out on a QB if we trade back force Reid's hand to draft Geno (hopefully) at #1?

Yes. At least the top three prospects will be taken in the first round. Plenty of teams need a QB or don't trust who they got. If we trade back we just risk the chance of losing out on the best prospect that is Geno Smith arguably out of the three. I can see the ****ing raiders taking Barkley at there 3 spot.

bowener · 01-08-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yes. At least the top three prospects will be taken in the first round. Plenty of teams need a QB or don't trust who they got. If we trade back we just risk the chance of losing out on the best prospect that is Geno Smith arguably out of the three. I can see the ****ing raiders taking Barkley at there 3 spot.

That is my fear. That we try and drop down a few spots and miss out on snagging the most important piece for an NFL team. I really think we take Geno at #1 though. There is no way Reid can look at our shit QBs without facepalming, and I can't imagine him being impressed by Alex Smith either. Then there is the fact that the Chiefs haven't taken a QB in the first in forever, and (intelligent) fans would be stoked/buy more season tickets and apparel shit.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-08-2013, 05:17 PM

2nd rounder

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-08-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

2nd rounder

He's not even as good as Mualuga, who went at the top of the second.

His 40 time will kill him.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-08-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's not even as good as Mualuga, who went at the top of the second.

His 40 time will kill him.

Would you take him with our 3rd? I remember when Spikes sank like a stone.

TEX · 01-08-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Would you take him with our 3rd? I remember when Spikes sank like a stone.

Of course.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-08-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Would you take him with our 3rd? I remember when Spikes sank like a stone.

It all depends on his Combine numbers. I have a feeling he's going to be slow as shit. Plus, it also depends on which defense the Chiefs decide to run and how valuable that position is to the new defense.

Nightfyre · 01-08-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It all depends on his Combine numbers. I have a feeling he's going to be slow as shit. Plus, it also depends on which defense the Chiefs decide to run and how valuable that position is to the new defense.

That's a good point. He definitely fits the 3-4 we played last year, but if he is slow, he may not fit our new 3-4.

BlackHelicopters · 01-08-2013, 05:20 PM

Dude just missed another tackle.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-08-2013, 05:27 PM

If any of us were as bad at our job as Kiper we'd be fired.

**notorious** · 01-08-2013, 05:51 PM

Thank you, Alabama, for squashing all the idiotic talk about drafting Teo at #1.

scho63 · 01-08-2013, 06:11 PM

Subpar performance in BCS title game raises serious questions about Manti Te’o's draft stock

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...1660--nfl.html

Those who are interested in personal narratives may find the story of Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o more compelling than do the scouts, coaches, and personnel executives who are now responsible for deciding where Te'o will go in the 2013 NFL Draft. Though he was thought by many to be a sure-fire top-5 pick -- there were even some who believed Te'o to be worthy of the first overall selection -- Te'o's flaws were exposed against Alabama's big-boy offense in the Crimson Tide's 42-14 beat down of the Fighting Irish in Monday's BCS Championship game.

Facing an offensive line that had poleaxed opponents all season, and a multi-headed run game that proved impossible to stop, Te'o looked very much like an NFL prospect with impressive range in space and coverage, but a real need for improved core and functional strength before he can truly take on what the NFL has to offer.

“This definitely sucks,” Te’o said after the game. “But I wouldn’t trade it for anything. I wouldn’t trade this team for anything. I wouldn’t do anything differently. Obviously, we wish that the night could have ended in a different way, but the season, the year, my career here, I’ve been really blessed to be at Notre Dame and I’ll forever be proud to say that I’m a Notre Dame Fighting Irish.”

At 6-foot-2 and 255 pounds, Te'o isn't set up to be one of the new wave of lighter, faster linebackers in the vein of Luke Kuechly, Lavonte David, or Bobby Wagner. That bigger kind of linebacker needs to hit run fits hard, and stop big plays from happening at or near the line of scrimmage. That did not happen in this game. Te'o was pushed back and out of gaps, he didn't close when he needed to with consistency, and his ability to cover a lot of ground in a short period of time was rendered relatively useless as Alabama simply punched Notre Dame in the mouth with alarming regularity.

[Related: Notre Dame's crushing loss offers more proof Alabama, SEC rule]
Where that leaves the winner of the Walter Camp, Bednarik, Lombardi, and Nagurski awards is open to debate, but in an NFL that does not value the traditional 4-3 inside linebacker as is once did, Te'o may find himself on the outside looking in unless he positions himself in pre-draft workouts as the kind nickel linebacker who can cover half a football field and deal with a multi-faceted NFL passing game. That's where he has more potential, because Te'o really does cover ground impressively. When it comes to hitting run gaps with authority, Te'o may need more help from defensive tackles than some people imagined.

His character is not in question -- the way Te'o was able to keep his season on track after the deaths of his girlfriend and grandmother in September speaks so very well of his determination and love of the game. By all accounts, Te'o is a great leader, and the kind of player you want on your defense to line other players up and get them rolling.

But when it comes to the NFL, and what the pro game requires, Te'o opened a Pandora's Box that the higher league will have to explore. He now has the scouting combine, and the rest of the pre-draft process, to put those concerns to rest.

“I just use it as fuel, I just use it as fuel to be better,” Te’o concluded. “That’s all you can use it for. Like I said, life goes on. What are you going to take from this? Are you just going to sulk and just sit back and feel sorry for yourself? Or are you going to get up and do something about it? I have an opportunity to do something about it. And one day, it’s going to make me better.”

The NFL would like that to be so.

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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2571110	Subpar performance in BCS title game raises serious questions about Manti Te’o's draft stock http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...1660--nfl.html Those who are interested in personal narratives may find the story of Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o more compelling than do the scouts, coaches, and personnel executives who are now responsible for deciding where Te'o will go in the 2013 NFL Draft. Though he was thought by many to be a sure-fire top-5 pick -- there were even some who believed Te'o to be worthy of the first overall selection -- Te'o's flaws were exposed against Alabama's big-boy offense in the Crimson Tide's 42-14 beat down of the Fighting Irish in Monday's BCS Championship game. Facing an offensive line that had poleaxed opponents all season, and a multi-headed run game that proved impossible to stop, Te'o looked very much like an NFL prospect with impressive range in space and coverage, but a real need for improved core and functional strength before he can truly take on what the NFL has to offer. “This definitely sucks,” Te’o said after the game. “But I wouldn’t trade it for anything. I wouldn’t trade this team for anything. I wouldn’t do anything differently. Obviously, we wish that the night could have ended in a different way, but the season, the year, my career here, I’ve been really blessed to be at Notre Dame and I’ll forever be proud to say that I’m a Notre Dame Fighting Irish.” At 6-foot-2 and 255 pounds, Te'o isn't set up to be one of the new wave of lighter, faster linebackers in the vein of Luke Kuechly, Lavonte David, or Bobby Wagner. That bigger kind of linebacker needs to hit run fits hard, and stop big plays from happening at or near the line of scrimmage. That did not happen in this game. Te'o was pushed back and out of gaps, he didn't close when he needed to with consistency, and his ability to cover a lot of ground in a short period of time was rendered relatively useless as Alabama simply punched Notre Dame in the mouth with alarming regularity. [Related: Notre Dame's crushing loss offers more proof Alabama, SEC rule] Where that leaves the winner of the Walter Camp, Bednarik, Lombardi, and Nagurski awards is open to debate, but in an NFL that does not value the traditional 4-3 inside linebacker as is once did, Te'o may find himself on the outside looking in unless he positions himself in pre-draft workouts as the kind nickel linebacker who can cover half a football field and deal with a multi-faceted NFL passing game. That's where he has more potential, because Te'o really does cover ground impressively. When it comes to hitting run gaps with authority, Te'o may need more help from defensive tackles than some people imagined. His character is not in question -- the way Te'o was able to keep his season on track after the deaths of his girlfriend and grandmother in September speaks so very well of his determination and love of the game. By all accounts, Te'o is a great leader, and the kind of player you want on your defense to line other players up and get them rolling. But when it comes to the NFL, and what the pro game requires, Te'o opened a Pandora's Box that the higher league will have to explore. He now has the scouting combine, and the rest of the pre-draft process, to put those concerns to rest. “I just use it as fuel, I just use it as fuel to be better,” Te’o concluded. “That’s all you can use it for. Like I said, life goes on. What are you going to take from this? Are you just going to sulk and just sit back and feel sorry for yourself? Or are you going to get up and do something about it? I have an opportunity to do something about it. And one day, it’s going to make me better.” The NFL would like that to be so. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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