Football Donovan McNabb Says Stafford Hasn't Earned His Contract - Page 16

houstonwhodat · 07-10-2013, 03:56 PM

Looks like McNabb is butthurt over Matt Stafford's contract.

Shut up McNabb you haven't earned your microphone.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-his-contract/

"For the second time this offseason, former NFL quarterback Donovan McNabb has weighed in on a current NFL quarterback’s contract. And for the second time, McNabb has expressed his disapproval.

In March, McNabb said Tony Romo isn’t worth the money the Cowboys have agreed to pay him. Now McNabb has weighed in on Matthew Stafford’s new contract with the Lions, and once again McNabb believes the team is overpaying."

houstonwhodat · 07-11-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's a terrible reason. He was already under contract for ths year and they could have picked up his option for 2014.

Stafford is 1-22 against teams that finish with winning records. He's led the Lions to 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 and 4-12 records. Last year, he threw 20TD's and 17 INT's in a division with teams, other than the Bears, with middling-to-poor defenses.

Acting as if this was somehow a "no-brainier" for Detroit is outright ridiculous.

I didn't say it was a no-brainer.

Personally I don't give a shit.

But one thing is he definitely got paid.

**Mav** · 07-11-2013, 01:15 PM

Well, truth be told, this is a relative bargain compared to what the cowboys paid for tony Romo.

-King- · 07-11-2013, 01:19 PM

I really didn't think people were serious about the Alex Smith/Stafford comparisons.

I'm not a Stafford fan, but I would have given up our first and second THIS year for him before I gave up a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year for Smith. Wouldn't even be something to think about.

Marcellus · 07-11-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I really didn't think people were serious about the Alex Smith/Stafford comparisons.

I'm not a Stafford fan, but I would have given up our first and second THIS year for him before I gave up a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year for Smith. Wouldn't even be something to think about.

Yea, but he wasn't available so its moot point.

Every thread turns into a Smith sucks thread and the guy hasn't thrown a pass yet.

CP has lost its burst.

**Mav** · 07-11-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I really didn't think people were serious about the Alex Smith/Stafford comparisons.

I'm not a Stafford fan, but I would have given up our first and second THIS year for him before I gave up a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year for Smith. Wouldn't even be something to think about.

It depends on your system. With Stafford short range accuracy problems, he wouldn't fit a west coast offense at all. That's the only upside I gave to Alex Smith over Stafford. Of course from a physical stand point is this even comparable? The guy is a prototype qb. Rocket arm, big, decently mobile. just not overly accurate, which is why a guy like Mike Vick, sucked so badly in this offense. And guys like Rich Gannon, and Jeff Garcia, thrived in it.

For, THIS OFFENSE, Stafford would be a huge waste.

-King- · 07-11-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

It depends on your system. With Stafford short range accuracy problems, he wouldn't fit a west coast offense at all. That's the only upside I gave to Alex Smith over Stafford. Of course from a physical stand point is this even comparable? The guy is a prototype qb. Rocket arm, big, decently mobile. just not overly accurate, which is why a guy like Mike Vick, sucked so badly in this offense. And guys like Rich Gannon, and Jeff Garcia, thrived in it.

For, THIS OFFENSE, Stafford would be a huge waste.

Vick had 9000 yards 60% completion 52 TDs and 30 INTs with an 88 passer rating the past 3 years. He also had 1700 yards and 13 rushing TDs. "Sucked badly" is hardly accurate. He declined because of his age and the hits he was taking.

BeMyValentine · 07-11-2013, 03:14 PM

If you pay players for what they have done instead of what they are going to do you will turn into the Redskins and Cowboys.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-11-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Vick had 9000 yards 60% completion 52 TDs and 30 INTs with an 88 passer rating the past 3 years. He also had 1700 yards and 13 rushing TDs. "Sucked badly" is hardly accurate. He declined because of his age and the hits he was taking.

Vick was garbage in Atlanta. Highly overrated.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-11-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

It depends on your system. With Stafford short range accuracy problems, he wouldn't fit a west coast offense at all. That's the only upside I gave to Alex Smith over Stafford. Of course from a physical stand point is this even comparable? The guy is a prototype qb. Rocket arm, big, decently mobile. just not overly accurate, which is why a guy like Mike Vick, sucked so badly in this offense. And guys like Rich Gannon, and Jeff Garcia, thrived in it.

For, THIS OFFENSE, Stafford would be a huge waste.

Mother....

****.

**Mav** · 07-11-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Vick had 9000 yards 60% completion 52 TDs and 30 INTs with an 88 passer rating the past 3 years. He also had 1700 yards and 13 rushing TDs. "Sucked badly" is hardly accurate. He declined because of his age and the hits he was taking.

so he averaged 3000 yards, less than 20 tds, and 10 ints. the rushing is impressive, but the passing stats, aren't impressive at all when you think about it. Now, what are those numbers if you take away that first season where he was awesome, and you find the average of the past two, which by the way have gotten worse, and so bad in fact, that he got benched by THE FRONT OFFICE, for Nick Foles. '

**Mav** · 07-11-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Mother....

****.

What do you know about Matt Stafford, and what do you know about the west coast offense.

What you know about matt Stafford is that he has a rocket arm. He throws one of the prettiest deep balls in the Nfl. What apparently you don't know, is that he is horrendous with ball protection, and is horrendous on short to intermediate throws. His accuracy, which is CRITICAL matter of fact its the number one trait sought by coaches who run the west coast offense.

Meaning, Alex Smith, who is very accurate in short to medium passes, values the football like its a new born, is far more effective at this type of offense.

Im not saying Alex Smith, is better than Matt Stafford. But system specific, he is FAR BETTER.....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-11-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

What do you know about Matt Stafford, and what do you know about the west coast offense.

What you know about matt Stafford is that he has a rocket arm. He throws one of the prettiest deep balls in the Nfl. What apparently you don't know, is that he is horrendous with ball protection, and is horrendous on short to intermediate throws. His accuracy, which is CRITICAL matter of fact its the number one trait sought by coaches who run the west coast offense.

Meaning, Alex Smith, who is very accurate in short to medium passes, values the football like its a new born, is far more effective at this type of offense.

Im not saying Alex Smith, is better than Matt Stafford. But system specific, he is FAR BETTER.....

I tweak the offense to suit Stafford, and I take my chances with Stafford and our O-line. We're not running pure WCO anyway, so I'll take the younger QB who can make the long throws, and who has the greater upside when paired with a great supporting cast. THX!

-King- · 07-11-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

so he averaged 3000 yards, less than 20 tds, and 10 ints. the rushing is impressive, but the passing stats, aren't impressive at all when you think about it. Now, what are those numbers if you take away that first season where he was awesome, and you find the average of the past two, which by the way have gotten worse, and so bad in fact, that he got benched by THE FRONT OFFICE, for Nick Foles. '

I wonder which other QB has done LESS than that yet you say is great.

By the way, he got benched after his injury. Hmmm...I wonder who else got benched after their injury.

What a hypocrite.

**RNR** · 07-11-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Well, truth be told, this is a relative bargain compared to what the cowboys paid for tony Romo.

Reading your sig

a noob making a bet with gochiefs thinking he will honor it is too funny~

Saccopoo · 07-11-2013, 09:51 PM

Stafford sucks.

He's the modern equivalent of Dante Culpepper, who put up huge numbers while bombing deep to Moss in his prime.

Stafford can throw it a mile, but that's about it. It's why they made Megatron the richest guy in football - to protect Stafford's inaccuracies.

And Stafford has never matured beyond the drunk college jock BMOC he was at Georgia.

Considering our personnel and coaching, I'd take Alex Smith over Matt Stafford all day long.

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Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Stafford sucks. He's the modern equivalent of Dante Culpepper, who put up huge numbers while bombing deep to Moss in his prime. Stafford can throw it a mile, but that's about it. It's why they made Megatron the richest guy in football - to protect Stafford's inaccuracies. And Stafford has never matured beyond the drunk college jock BMOC he was at Georgia. Considering our personnel and coaching, I'd take Alex Smith over Matt Stafford all day long.
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