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Old 04-19-2011, 08:38 AM  
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Chiefs trade scenario?

Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.


Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:43 AM   #2
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:44 AM   #3
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Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.


Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454

Just 1 very small problem........ Without a CBA in place you can't trade players only draft picks.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:48 AM   #8
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Just 1 very small problem........ Without a CBA in place you can't trade players only draft picks.
Why'd you have to go and tell him?
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:16 AM   #9
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:19 AM   #10
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Why'd you have to go and tell him?
I had to give him partial credit because I like the idea of moving up for Jones.
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Here is the one problem (other than the fact that it's dumb and you can't trade players).

The Vikings have a bigger need for a DE than a DT. Even if they wanted Dorsey.....he plays the same position as Kevin Williams. So if they're looking for a DT to replace Pat Williams.....it's going to be a big run stuffer.....not Dorsey.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:35 AM   #13
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Why do we have to trade Glenn Dorsey EVERY year?

DL could be one of our thinnest spots with contracts being up and this guy wants to trade more DL players.

Also, You need to do some MORE reading before this draft. No current players will be allowed to be traded, only future picks due to the lockout.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:47 AM   #14
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Here is the one problem (other than the fact that it's dumb and you can't trade players).

The Vikings have a bigger need for a DE than a DT. Even if they wanted Dorsey.....he plays the same position as Kevin Williams. So if they're looking for a DT to replace Pat Williams.....it's going to be a big run stuffer.....not Dorsey.
The OP was so full of fail, there was no way I was going to address each fail.

I think my initial response just about covers it all.
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Why do we have to trade Glenn Dorsey EVERY year?
Yeah, it gets old doesn't it? The guy just does the what is asked of him and has a great attitude. He is getting better and better at what they ask him to do, in spite of having Gunther **** him up early.

Trade Tyson Jackson, ok, but not Dorsey.
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