Chiefs The CB's are gonna be something feirce for a while - Page 4

jeffery · 12-07-2008, 03:28 PM

WOW.....Leggit just jumped that route so perfectly.....no longer will i have to hear about champ and dre as the best tandem, but Carr, Flowers, and leggetmay be best 3some ive ever seen

Zouk · 12-07-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You do know the Giants just used a 1st round pick on a safety yes?

He's a backup.

We weren't arguing philosophy - he said all good teams in the NFL have a great safety. Well the Giants won a Super Bowl and are 11-2 with James Butler and Michael Johnson.

This team's problem is not at safety. It's always easy to blame safeties because they're the last line and out in the open, But it's way down the list.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-07-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Well, it's taken you a while, but you finally posted your first good point.

I think many people( ahem..cough-cough )have been making that point, but no one wants to listen.

This defense minus our three emerging young guys is an absolute ****ing JOKE.

Our Safties and LB's literally DEFINE "monkey ****ing a football". They're all over the field, but never in the place they're supposed be.

Look; I understand why using position to get a QB is the right move. And to be honest, I saw some troubling red flags with Thigpen today. But I wish SOMEONE besides myself would throw as much 'Jerk and Spurt'-attention to this defense as they do the Quarterback question.

Mr. Laz · 12-07-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Really this team has a severe lack of talent, most of these players would have no place on a remotely good team.

ya and our offensive line is too bad to run a decent offense ...... oh wait

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-07-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

ya and our offensive line is too bad to run a decent offense ...... oh wait

Don't go handing out those blue ribbons just yet, pal. It was that O-line that created today's comic relief, or as I like to call it; "The LJ Stutter-Splat Run of 08".

WilliamTheIrish · 12-07-2008, 08:52 PM

Pollard is a fine ST player. Page too. I'm still pissed that Carr allowed Tatum Bell to run 35 yards on that 95 yard drive.

It's not just the talent. Yea, the Chiefs D is deficient in the talent area, but our coaches suck and I don't think the players believe in the staff.

Mecca · 12-07-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

He's a backup.

We weren't arguing philosophy - he said all good teams in the NFL have a great safety. Well the Giants won a Super Bowl and are 11-2 with James Butler and Michael Johnson.

This team's problem is not at safety. It's always easy to blame safeties because they're the last line and out in the open, But it's way down the list.

Uh no he's not dude, Kenny Phillips is a starter for the Giants.

Zouk · 12-07-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Uh no he's not dude, Kenny Phillips is a starter for the Giants.

Michael Johnson: 13 starts

http://www.nfl.com/players/michaeljo...e?id=JOH504824

James Butler: 11 starts (2 games missed due to injury)

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesbutl...e?id=BUT259550

Kenny Phillips: 3 starts (2 games when Butler was out, 1 game when they opened in dime)

http://www.nfl.com/players/kennyphil...e?id=PHI403361

Cornstock · 12-07-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swazey

Plaese to fix linebacking corp first. Thank you.

Despite all of his "amazing-ness" DJ has the worst hands ive ever seen in the world. I wonder if they keep a count on INTs dropped, im sure DJ would be leading the league. He almost had one today where he tried to "bread basket catch" it above his head. terrrible ball instincts.

But I really liked him at MIKE today. It seemed like he turned up more often.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-07-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

Giants?

Brandon Carr had a very rough day today. Just like Leggett did against the Saints. It's part of the deal for a rookie from D2. But that play with Marshall in the end zone on 3rd and long was really really bad. He just stood there and watched Marshall make a play on the ball.

Gibril Wilson was an absolute stud for the Giants last year.

Kenny Phillips is also playing great football for them as well.

Does that satisfy you, Herm lover?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-07-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

he already is.

WORD!

**The Bad Guy** · 12-07-2008, 10:17 PM

You could argue the Giants this year didn't have one for 11 games. That's where superior coaching comes into play.

Unless we magically get superior coaching, we absolutely must upgrade at safety this year as well.

**morphius** · 12-07-2008, 10:18 PM

I'm happy with our top 3 CB's on this team, just the rest of the D is completely forgettable.

chiefsngop · 12-07-2008, 10:19 PM

If Carr continues to develop and we can find a replacement for Page, I believe Pollard can be serviceable, as long as he is coachable.

Pollard will never be great, but with Flowers, Carr (with another year under his belt), and a solid replacement for Page, he's good enough to round out the 4.

That's if he's coachable, and we can teach him to wrap up and improve his cover abilities.

I'd hate for us to have to spend the draft pick or other resources replacing both safeties when we so desperately need a pass rusher and linebacking corp.

blueballs · 12-07-2008, 11:47 PM

There needs to be a new sheriff and staff in defenseville
I've given up hope of Herm not returning

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-07-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

There needs to be a new sheriff and staff in defenseville
I've given up hope of Herm not returning

I do believe a "Gun Bus-Chuck" WILL be forthcoming.

12-07-2008, 03:28 PM
jeffery Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mo Casino cash: $10004900	The CB's are gonna be something feirce for a while WOW.....Leggit just jumped that route so perfectly.....no longer will i have to hear about champ and dre as the best tandem, but Carr, Flowers, and leggetmay be best 3some ive ever seen
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12-07-2008, 08:52 PM	#50
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $6050607	Pollard is a fine ST player. Page too. I'm still pissed that Carr allowed Tatum Bell to run 35 yards on that 95 yard drive. It's not just the talent. Yea, the Chiefs D is deficient in the talent area, but our coaches suck and I don't think the players believe in the staff.
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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9373645	You could argue the Giants this year didn't have one for 11 games. That's where superior coaching comes into play. Unless we magically get superior coaching, we absolutely must upgrade at safety this year as well. __________________
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morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6925027	I'm happy with our top 3 CB's on this team, just the rest of the D is completely forgettable.
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12-07-2008, 10:19 PM	#58
chiefsngop Starter Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	If Carr continues to develop and we can find a replacement for Page, I believe Pollard can be serviceable, as long as he is coachable. Pollard will never be great, but with Flowers, Carr (with another year under his belt), and a solid replacement for Page, he's good enough to round out the 4. That's if he's coachable, and we can teach him to wrap up and improve his cover abilities. I'd hate for us to have to spend the draft pick or other resources replacing both safeties when we so desperately need a pass rusher and linebacking corp. __________________ We'll be fine. At least Carl Peterson's 5 year plan is finally completed.
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12-07-2008, 11:47 PM	#59
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	There needs to be a new sheriff and staff in defenseville I've given up hope of Herm not returning
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