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Old 11-09-2010, 12:00 AM  
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Do you think we could trade for an elite WR in the offseason?

Surely there are some teams that would be willing to give up an elite WR (like a Chad Johnson) for some draft picks to help their rebuild.

Or do you think we'll continue to try to build through the draft?
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:08 PM   #76
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this. seriously. when you have a qb that plays like crap, an elite WR is not going to do anything except bitch about not getting the ball. it would be like dropping a festiva motor into a ferrari's body. people are just going to laugh at you and call you douche.
In NE Cassel was good and now he struggles and no doubt it's our WR's. That's the difference. I think Cassel is not that great be we have the worst WR's in the league and it hurts him even being mediocre. They have trouble getting open. Lenny the cool says it every broadcast. He knows what an open reciever looks like and our don't get open that much, You can tell on TV. How many yards after catch do any of them get? None. They are tackled immediiately. I bet our YAC is the worst in the league.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:12 PM   #77
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How many yards after catch do any of them get? None. They are tackled immediiately.


Did you forget Bowe's two 50-yard TDs against Houston and Jacksonville?
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:15 PM   #78
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this. seriously. when you have a qb that plays like crap, an elite WR is not going to do anything except bitch about not getting the ball. it would be like dropping a festiva motor into a ferrari's body. people are just going to laugh at you and call you douche.
Wasn't Moss able to put up 11 TD with Cassel?
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:18 PM   #79
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I think WR is the easiest position to fill in the draft. Lotsa guys every year.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:34 PM   #80
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:39 PM   #81
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There are always good receivers to be found throughout the draft.

Jacoby Ford was a 4th rounder. Steve Breaston was a 5th. Marques Colston was a 7th. Welker was undrafted. Julian Edelman was a 7th.

And on and on and on and on.

Trading for a receiver would be ****ing dumb.
as true as that may be, we wouldn't be guaranteed to "hit" on a later round WR. I'm hoping that Dexter McCluster will make a difference in the passing game, he opens things up a little bit I think. But we certainly need to draft a WR or 2 next year and maybe go after a free agent.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:40 PM   #82
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dude. the trade deadline is over.
I just clicked on this thread and started reading it, and got this far.

I hope the stupidity of this post has already been addressed.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:42 PM   #83
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Which is why I said "offseason" in the title.

I'm not saying we should trade FOR Ochocinco; just someone like him.
Okay, it was.

Not the way I would have addressed it, but oh well.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:49 PM   #84
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In NE Cassel was good and now he struggles and no doubt it's our WR's. That's the difference. I think Cassel is not that great be we have the worst WR's in the league and it hurts him even being mediocre. They have trouble getting open. Lenny the cool says it every broadcast. He knows what an open reciever looks like and our don't get open that much, You can tell on TV. How many yards after catch do any of them get? None. They are tackled immediiately. I bet our YAC is the worst in the league.
dude, you cant just make statements like that and place all the blame on the wideouts.

If the ball is put in a place where they can catch it in stride, the YAC would be better but he almost always puts the ball in a place where the receiver has to lose speed to catch it and in many instances they have to stop altogether and struggle to just touch the ball.

Its not like Bowe was a 1000 yard receiver in both of his two years before Cassel got here.

Bowe had more yards in 2008 than in every game combined with Cassel...

coincidence?

If you are trying to say that Dexter McCluster doesnt get open, I dont know what to tell you.

If you are saying that his passes to Moeaki have been accurate and in a fashion that allows him to continue on his path to gain more yards...well just look at my sig for a moment.

How many times has the ball his a running backs feet on a swing pass?

I mean, really are you seriously trying to say that the bigger problem is the guys he has to throw to?

If so, I strongly disagree.

I am of the small group here that thinks that this group of receivers could be a damn fine group of we had a good quarterback and all we truly need is a real #1 guy (and of course, a real quarterback) to make it a truly ELITE group. Especially with how deadly our running attack has beed and how much attention it gathers from opponents.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:40 PM   #85
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Another indictment on Pioli.
Do you not know what the word indictment means or do you seriously think Pioli is in need of any indictment?
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:45 PM   #86
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Do you not know what the word indictment means or do you seriously think Pioli is in need of any indictment?
Apparently you don't. Grab a thesaurus and look up synonyms for indictment.

While you're at it, look up synonyms for shitty. You'll find a picture of Cassel.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:46 PM   #87
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In NE Cassel was good and now he struggles and no doubt it's our WR's. That's the difference. I think Cassel is not that great be we have the worst WR's in the league and it hurts him even being mediocre. They have trouble getting open. Lenny the cool says it every broadcast. He knows what an open reciever looks like and our don't get open that much, You can tell on TV. How many yards after catch do any of them get? None. They are tackled immediiately. I bet our YAC is the worst in the league.
Dude..Just. Stop.

Cassel is freaking awful. Seriously,everyone, watch every ball he has thrown this year.. I want you to count how many were good throws, and how many were bad throws.

It would be about a 75-25 ratio.

I can't believe people defend this guy, it blows my mind.

There has been games where he hasn't lost us the game.

But he will never be a QB who can win us games. EVER. He is average, he over throws everything.

His first throw in the raiders game was a 30 feet lob in the air to TM when he was 5 yards in front of him! Then at the end of the 4th quater he over threw a open reciever on 2nd and 10, and then again on 3rd and 10..

He is awful.
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Wasn't Moss able to put up 11 TD with Cassel?
Moss can put up 20 td with any QB that was ever in the NFL if he wanted to.
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Apparently you don't. Grab a thesaurus and look up synonyms for indictment.
I know exactly what it means...So you think Pioli has done a poor job thus far?

Because that is the only reason one would indict him.
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