Chiefs Hunt willing to trade pick per kffl - Page 11

**BigRedChief** · 01-15-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That said, no one sticks to BPA completely, as Dorsey suggested yesterday.

Hypothetically, let's say the Chiefs are drafting 8th one year and as players come off the board, the next highest rated player on KC's board is a guard. They taking a guard #8 overall? Yeah, right.

BPA that we need? The Packers have doubled up on picks that they didn't really need because it was the BPA. They then traded or let one walk etc.

We just have to trust that Andy Reid will demand a top filght NFL QB. He will make it happen. It's history and a core part of his offense. It will happen.

I'm not going to get all upset because I trust Reid will get us a QOTF.

**DeezNutz** · 01-15-2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Does anyone really think Lutuleilei is going to grade out at 95? I mean, are their "Experts" saying that? I Know McShay is pushing that he's going to somehow develop into a better pass rusher/backfield disruptor in the NFL than he was against lesser competition, but really...

I don't think anyone in this draft grades out that high.

I'd expect Lutuleilei and Joeckel to be somewhere around 83-85 and the top QB (Who I think will be Geno) to be 78-79.

In that case, I take a QB at 79 over a DT at 85 or a LT at 83 all day long.

Yes. All day, yes.

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

BPA that we need? The Packers have doubled up on picks that they didn't really need because it was the BPA. They then traded or let one walk etc.

We just have to trust that Andy Reid will demand a top filght NFL QB. He will make it happen. It's history and a core part of his offense. It will happen.

I'm not going to get all upset because I trust Reid will get us a QOTF.

After cleaning up after Pioli's upper decker, I don't trust anyone. I am, however, very hopeful based on Reid's history with QBs, and I do believe that he understands the importance of the position.

I don't think he subscribes to the "Right 53" bullshit. In hindsight, we should have realized how ****ed we were when Pioli said "team" 8,000 times in his initial presser.

**BossChief** · 01-15-2013, 05:20 PM

Deez, the thing tht scares me a bit is them having Starlite graded at a 95 and the highest qb graded at a 89.

If it was my decision, I'd re-sign Dorsey to a reasonable deal...that crosses Star off the list because he isn't a good pass rusher and is pretty much a run defender. Sound familiar?

Re-sign Albert, he is just as good as Joeckel but has shown the ability to play at a high level in the NFL using multiple techniques. That crosses off two failed picks.

GO GET US A QUARTERBACK!

**DeezNutz** · 01-15-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Deez, the thing tht scares me a bit is them having Starlite graded at a 95 and the highest qb graded at a 89.

If it was my decision, I'd re-sign Dorsey to a reasonable deal...that crosses Star off the list because he isn't a good pass rusher and is pretty much a run defender. Sound familiar?

Re-sign Albert, he is just as good as Joeckel but has shown the ability to play at a high level in the NFL using multiple techniques. That crosses off two failed picks.

GO GET US A QUARTERBACK!

If they have a QB graded that high, it's a no-brainer because of positional value. Now, if the highest QB is a 75 in your hypothetical, then I understand passing.

warpaint* · 01-15-2013, 05:52 PM

Meh. Saying you are "willing" doesn't mean

1. you are going to
2. or that you're even likely to necessarily

It just means that other teams shouldn't be discouraged from calling you.
Never know, someone might offer more than we can refuse.

All things being equal the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in the 1r in 30 years. That is not a coincidence w/ respect to our failings for the better part of 40 years to find a franchise QB. It is my hope that they like one of these QBs enough to draft him 1st overall and give it a go. That said none of them are a sure thing and if say whomever's drafting 5th calls up and offers all their picks this yr and a 1st the next two years to move up 4 spots that'd be too much to turn down. Obviously that's not happening I am just saying it never hurts to listen b/c you never know how far the other guy is willing to go.

duncan_idaho · 01-15-2013, 06:08 PM

Does anyone really think Lutuleilei is going to grade out at 95? I mean, are their "Experts" saying that? I Know McShay is pushing that he's going to somehow develop into a better pass rusher/backfield disruptor in the NFL than he was against lesser competition, but really...

I don't think anyone in this draft grades out that high.

I'd expect Lutuleilei and Joeckel to be somewhere around 83-85 and the top QB (Who I think will be Geno) to be 78-79.

In that case, I take a QB at 79 over a DT at 85 or a LT at 83 all day long.

prhom · 01-15-2013, 06:26 PM

I think the 5-10 picks are going to have a lot more teams interested in trading than 1-4. The teams that are going to want to trade up are going to be picking after 15 and the teams in the top spots would want too much to move that far back. Obviously, we'll see after the senior bowl and combine, but seems there aren't as many big time prospects this year.

Is Joeckel worth that much more than the next LT on the board that someone will give up next years first for him? Doubt it.

01-15-2013, 05:20 PM	#3
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1594088	Deez, the thing tht scares me a bit is them having Starlite graded at a 95 and the highest qb graded at a 89. If it was my decision, I'd re-sign Dorsey to a reasonable deal...that crosses Star off the list because he isn't a good pass rusher and is pretty much a run defender. Sound familiar? Re-sign Albert, he is just as good as Joeckel but has shown the ability to play at a high level in the NFL using multiple techniques. That crosses off two failed picks. GO GET US A QUARTERBACK! __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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01-15-2013, 05:52 PM	#5
warpaint* Facts are stubborn things. Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $6964900	Meh. Saying you are "willing" doesn't mean 1. you are going to 2. or that you're even likely to necessarily It just means that other teams shouldn't be discouraged from calling you. Never know, someone might offer more than we can refuse. All things being equal the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in the 1r in 30 years. That is not a coincidence w/ respect to our failings for the better part of 40 years to find a franchise QB. It is my hope that they like one of these QBs enough to draft him 1st overall and give it a go. That said none of them are a sure thing and if say whomever's drafting 5th calls up and offers all their picks this yr and a 1st the next two years to move up 4 spots that'd be too much to turn down. Obviously that's not happening I am just saying it never hurts to listen b/c you never know how far the other guy is willing to go.
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01-15-2013, 06:08 PM	#6
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1460308	Does anyone really think Lutuleilei is going to grade out at 95? I mean, are their "Experts" saying that? I Know McShay is pushing that he's going to somehow develop into a better pass rusher/backfield disruptor in the NFL than he was against lesser competition, but really... I don't think anyone in this draft grades out that high. I'd expect Lutuleilei and Joeckel to be somewhere around 83-85 and the top QB (Who I think will be Geno) to be 78-79. In that case, I take a QB at 79 over a DT at 85 or a LT at 83 all day long. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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01-15-2013, 06:26 PM	#7
prhom Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Denver Casino cash: $7966013	I think the 5-10 picks are going to have a lot more teams interested in trading than 1-4. The teams that are going to want to trade up are going to be picking after 15 and the teams in the top spots would want too much to move that far back. Obviously, we'll see after the senior bowl and combine, but seems there aren't as many big time prospects this year. Is Joeckel worth that much more than the next LT on the board that someone will give up next years first for him? Doubt it.
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