Thoughts on Chip Kelly As Next Coach?

[Marco Polo]

Read this before responding. Great read about football in general.

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-...revolution-nfl

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by vailpass

KC should use helmets without face masks too. They went to the superbowl when they wore those.

Times sure were different then, weren't they?

[BigChiefFan]

I thought this had already been discussed ad naseum.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by suds79

I'd rather have him over some retread.

We tried the Patriot way. We've tried copying others. Lets be innovative for once. Why not?

Do I know if he'd be a good HC? No.

But what I DO know is that we'd score a lot of points. It's the most QB friendly system out there. That's how Tom Brady, Drew Brees (while both great) are helped by it and able to put up such gaudy stats.

I think he'd pair nicely with Geno Smith.

Completely and utterly this. No more ****ing retreads, HC or QBs

[Frosty]

I wasn't sure about Kelly but after reading the Moneyball article and this from TMQ, I'm kind of intrigued.

Did the Starship Enterprise Just Go By, Or Was That the Oregon Offense?

Oregon's Blur Offense is putting up a hard-to-believe 54 points per game -- hard to believe owing to strong opponents, and that the Ducks show good sportsmanship in that they stop trying to score once a second-half lead is insurmountable. (Leading 70-14 at the end of three against Colorado, Oregon all but knelt on the ball for the entire fourth quarter.) Two years ago the Blue Offense seemed unstoppable at 49 points per game, then was held to 19 points in the BCS title contest. Maybe the Ducks will sputter again at the end. But the combination of gonzo tactics and the school's location in one of the most beautiful places in the world makes the Ducks potent. Nice colors and cheerleaders, too.

Obviously Oregon snaps the ball fast. In his UPS commercial, coach Chip Kelly claims an average of 13 seconds between plays, and Oregon achieved that on its first possession at USC -- five snaps in 65 seconds for 75 yards and a touchdown. By the third quarter, Oregon had slowed to 22 seconds between snaps. That's still fast to most teams, and the key thing was that by the third quarter, the Trojans' defense was visibly tired. USC tried to handle the quick pace by "rolling" defenders, subbing in and out on most Oregon downs. This not only didn't work, but the constant sprinting on and off the field seemed, itself, to tire the defense, to say nothing of resulting in snaps on which USC was out of position. Oregon has the same guys on the field on offense, why not just start your best defenders and leave them out?

When TMQ watches the Blur Offense, I don't watch the razzle-dazzle, I watch the blocking. A team does not rush for 426 yards against a ranked opponent on its own field without terrific blocking. Often Kenjon Barner wasn't hit for the first time until he was more than 10 yards downfield.

These days most offenses use zone blocking in part because it involves the least effort for pudgy offensive linemen: just lean and push in the direction of the play. The Blur Offense uses one, two or three pulling linemen on most rushing downs, and has pull plays back-to-back. For the Ducks it's pull and trap, pull and trap -- the linemen are as fit as the wide receivers. The 340-pound offensive lineman today is common; Oregon's heaviest player weighs 311 pounds, and star left tackle Tyler Johnstone practically is a ballerino at 292 pounds.

Even on good teams, offensive linemen usually make an initial block, then just stand there watching the play. Oregon's offensive linemen hustle downfield to make secondary blocks -- this, not backfield stunts, is essential to the Ducks' rushing success. On a long Barner run, Johnstone "set the edge" by turning his man in, then after Barner passed, hustled downfield to block someone else. On another long Barner rush, guard Isaac Remington pulled, got a man, then continued downfield to block another man. Oregon blocks so well that it can use two linemen pulling one way as a misdirection, and the three linemen on the play side still clear a path.

The Ducks gained 730 yards on offense and made 37 first downs, yet snapped so fast USC controlled time of possession. Barner gained 321 yards rushing with an average of 8.4 yards per carry. The Trojans knew he would get the ball, and it didn't matter. Oregon leading 48-38 at the start of the fourth quarter, Lane Kiffin sent in the punt unit on fourth-and-6 near midfield. TMQ wrote the words "game over" in his notebook. There was no chance USC could give the ball back to the Ducks in the fourth quarter with a 10-point deficit and still win. Watching Oregon try to move slowly during its clock-killer possession at the endgame was pretty amusing.

Weakening the Quacks would be an added bonus.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I wasn't sure about Kelly but after reading the Moneyball article and this from TMQ, I'm kind of intrigued.

Weakening the Quacks would be an added bonus.

I had visions of the 2003 Chiefs offensive line when I read that bolded part.

Some of the offensive line nuts on this board would be in a constant state of masturbation if Kelly were hired here.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by SNR

I had visions of the 2003 Chiefs offensive line when I read that.

Yup.

Fast players plus outstanding line play = all win.

[Sorter]

Jamaal would rape behind Kelly's run philosophies, IMO.

[Fat Elvis]

Clark might be an owner that would pull the trigger on a guy like Kelly. Clark is a numbers guy plain and simple. If a new football philosophy where the numbers added up made sense, I could see Clark giving it the thumbs up. Also, it would really allow him to create his own legacy and step out of Lamar's shadow. Lamar was a revolutionary thinker with regards to football; Clark could be as well.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You think he'd run the same system in the NFL he runs now?

I don't know why he'd change do you?

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Clark might be an owner that would pull the trigger on a guy like Kelly. Clark is a numbers guy plain and simple. If a new football philosophy where the numbers added up made sense, I could see Clark giving it the thumbs up. Also, it would really allow him to create his own legacy and step out of Lamar's shadow. Lamar was a revolutionary thinker with regards to football; Clark could be as well.

Clark would have to outspend Phil Knight to get Kelly away from the hole, though.

[TimeForWasp]

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

I'm not interested in any coach who runs a gimmick offense. I'm really not interestd in college coaches period.

Didn't (ALL) coaches come from the college ranks at one time or another for the most part?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by suds79

I don't know why he'd change do you?

Because it wouldn't work as-is in the NFL?

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

I'm not interested in any coach who runs a gimmick offense. I'm really not interestd in college coaches period.

Jim Harbaugh doesn't say hi, because he hates your posts.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Jamaal would rape behind Kelly's run philosophies, IMO.

Then don't hire him.

Behind whose pass philosophies will Geno rape? That's the only question worth asking or answering.

[TimeForWasp]

From what I noticed , I think the biggest thing that helped the Ducks offense, was the fast pace . Keeping the defenses messed up where they don't have time to adjust. Almost full time 2 minute offense. A play every 13 seconds. If you can game plan a whole game at that pace, I think that is more of his secret ingredient than anything.