Landry Jones > Geno Smith

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SNR

The answer to my question, btw, is Orlando Pace in 1997.

These players who came before Pace did not receive 2nd contracts with the team that drafted them. Most of them were abject failures.

Yes, I realize this was a different era of football, but all that proves is that teams didn't value QBs as much as they do now. Drafting DTs and RBs if they were damn good was what you did. The number of non-QBs at the #1 overall spot shows this.

Keyshawn Johnson, 1996
Ki-Jana Carter, 1995
Dan Wilkinson, 1994
Steve Emtman, 1992
Russell Maryland, 1991

It isn't until you get into the 1980s that you see any kind of decent hit rate for non-QBs drafted #1 overall.

Aundray Brown, 1988 (bust)
Bo Jackson, 1986
Bruce Smith, 1985

So here's the next logical question:

Has any non-QB picked #1 overall won a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them, other than Orlando Pace?

I only see one that even played in a Super Bowl and that was Bruce Smith nearly THIRTY years ago.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So here's the next logical question:

Has any non-QB picked #1 overall won a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them, other than Orlando Pace?

I only see one that even played in a Super Bowl and that was Bruce Smith nearly THIRTY years ago.

Russell Maryland won three Super Bowls with the Cowboys.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SNR

Russell Maryland won three Super Bowls with the Cowboys.

Ah yes, I missed his name on there.

Does he count, since he was playing with a QB that was also drafted #1 overall?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Austin Ed

They wouldn't draft Jones in the Top Ten. No one would The whole point is that he may be available at the top of Round Two and would be a great value pick there. I would rather have Jones and a true #1 pick than Smith at #1 or 2.

Sweet, merciful Jesus...

[Ace Gunner]

RB Paul Hornung
DE Too Tall Jones

#1 QB's that won;

Bradshaw
Aikman
Plunkett (another team)
Elway
Eli
Peyton

Here's a list of #1's;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ue_draft_picks

[RealSNR]

I might be willing to call Maryland the only other "correct" pick the Cowboys could have made, actually. Sure, he only lasted one contract, so he was hardly a franchise player. But consider this: they already had a franchise QB (obviously), and the two guys who went in that draft's first round were Dan McGwuire at #16 to the Seahawks and Todd Marinovich to the Raiders at 24 (remember when teams in the AFC West drafted QBs? Yeah, me neither). Also, the only player I would be willing to call "good" in his career in the top 10 was Herman Moore, who went 10th overall to the Lions.

The problem was that the Cowboys had to trade UP to get the #1 overall pick. The Patriots couldn't sign Raghib Ismael, so they traded it to Dallas for Eugene Lockhart, Ron Francis, David Howard, a 1991 first round pick (#11 Pat Harlow) and a 1991 second round pick (#41 Jerome Henderson).

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by SNR

I might be willing to call Maryland the only other "correct" pick the Cowboys could have made, actually. Sure, he only lasted one contract, so he was hardly a franchise player. But consider this: they already had a franchise QB (obviously), and the two guys who went in that draft's first round were Dan McGwuire at #16 to the Seahawks and Todd Marinovich to the Raiders at 24 (remember when teams in the AFC West drafted QBs? Yeah, me neither). Also, the only player I would be willing to call "good" in his career in the top 10 was Herman Moore, who went 10th overall to the Lions.

The problem was that the Cowboys had to trade UP to get the #1 overall pick. The Patriots couldn't sign Raghib Ismael, so they traded it to Dallas for Eugene Lockhart, Ron Francis, David Howard, a 1991 first round pick (#11 Pat Harlow) and a 1991 second round pick (#41 Jerome Henderson).

lol that's so cheap for a first overall pick in '91 compared to now where you'd have to sell the ****ing farm for it.