If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I really don't want Axl to have premium success. That means an extension, and that's not good for kC. Just get us our 7 wins and a wildcard asswhipping for a couple of years so we can move on with our lives please...
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[Messier]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I think it was Hamas or DJ had a nice post on this and you're way off.

How much better of a prospect is Kalil? Even if he's a lot better, what about Reiff? In a great draft year he went 23rd. Fisher and Joeckel are better prospects. In a good draft they'd be top ten picks, no later than 15.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I really don't want Axl to have premium success. That means an extension, and that's not good for kC. Just get us our 7 wins and a wildcard asswhipping for a couple of years so we can move on with our lives please...
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You dont want our QB to have premium success??? Wouldnt that mean playoff wins and a run at a SB? Maybe even get to the SB? maybe even win it all???? Why in the world would you be a fan of any team if you dont want them to not only succeed, but succeed at a premium level?????
Please go find another team to root for and stop teasing us with this 'Im done" shit. Be done already. Youre a ****ing troll, in all senses of the word.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You dont want our QB to have premium success??? Wouldnt that mean playoff wins and a run at a SB? Maybe even get to the SB? maybe even win it all???? Why in the world would you be a fan of any team if you dont want them to not only succeed, but succeed at a premium level?????
Please go find another team to root for and stop teasing us with this 'Im done" shit. Be done already. Youre a ****ing troll, in all senses of the word.

Tried to tell the same to him and his doomsayer ilk... don't bother... the hate and quitter mentality is strong with them.

Anyway, there's a cool article on Arrowheadpride about the pistol formations being implemented.. lots of excited KC fans there. GO CHIEFS !!!

[Mav]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

This "best fit scenario for Smith" is going be dependent just on how well he plays for KC and win over some of these fans. If he struggles early and we don't get some wins it could get ugly for him. Depends on how the crowd is going handle if we don't get some wins.

The expectations are going be high and more demanding than in San Fran. Coach Reid says he wants a passing attack and pass often offense so the pressure is really on Alex Smith to perform. It's going depend on Andy Reid recognizing Alex Smith faults also and see if he allows the running game to help him out.

They have to go out and prove that this trade was worth it and I think they don't have much window of opportunity to do it.


Chiefs fans are wanting results we are expecting results in wins.


So this could be a good fit for Alex Smith to get an uncontested starting job but the pressure to win is on him.

I say good fit because of the skill position players you had already, and this was before drafting Kelce, getting avery, fasano, and Eric Fisher and having Brendan Albert here to play. The fit, out of Buffalo, no oline, like at all, the jets, laughable, cards, seriously? KC was easily the fit that would give alex smith the best position to succeed. Being With andy reid, if he allows alex smith to check it down to a run play, because he is very good at pre snap reads, and very good at knowing when handing off the ball is a great thing to do.

Originally Posted by milkman

There is not going to be any pressure on Alex Smith from this fanbase next season.

They will, as they have in the past, find excuses and blame other areas of the team.

It took 4 years for Matt Cassel to be the focus of fan reaction.

Can the pressure here honestly ever be any worse than on national tv having a fan base chant we want carr? There is nothing the crowd will ever be able to say that will offend alex smith. If that were the case, after 2010 there is no way he would of went back. Hes got thick skin, hes a true professional, he understands the business.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

When Mark Sanchez has a 4-2 playoff record, two AFCCG'S, and a 9:1 TD:INT ratio, it was the defense and running game that got them there.

When the Niners fall short, with a superior roster, and inferior numbers for Smith compared to Sanchez - people imply that Smith was the reason the Niners even came close.

This place is always good for a laugh.

Well, he was the reason they beat the saints. Can you even argue that?

Originally Posted by Bowser

My favorite Alex Smith stat I've heard so far - He has thrown for over 300 yards in his career THREE times. Is that right? I mean, is that even possible for a guy that's been in the league eight years?

Head coach Mike Nolan, head coach mike singletary, head coach Jim harbaugh. All three believe in the run game and defense. Combined, alex smith and Colin kaepernick last year, ranked about 20th in passes attempted. They are a running team. They run the ball. They will continue to run the ball. They rarely trail, and thus in the second half, run the ball......For a guy with a running back, in his avatar, you seem to neglect the obvious.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

First off he said super bowl VICTORY. Getting there isn't winning one.

Second, how many yards did Alex have that game? How was he on third downs?

I have no doubt Smith could win a super bowl on a team like Dilfer had, but is that good enough?

I don't think it will be here
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Ill state this until im blue in the face. Alex Smith, had zero turnovers, he had a better rating than any other qb against the giants in that playoffs, and played in by far the worst weather of any other team that faced the giants. Alex Smith despite his 1/13 on third downs, was not the reason the 49ers lost that game. 2 dropped ints by our defense, and two fumbles on special teams were the critical plays that cost the 49ers........Also, Carlos Rogers being Victor Cruz's personal bitch in the first half was the other reason.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

we keep hearing how guys ALMOST got there.

Every time it was the ****ing qb that held them back.

That doesn't help your arguments guys.
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So Colin Kaepernick was the reason the 49ers didn't win the super bowl last year? I think that's absurd.....

Originally Posted by DaFace

Haven't clicked on this thread in 1000 posts or so. Is there anything of substance in here these days, or is this just the latest "Alex sucks" mega thread?

Pretty much.

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You dont want our QB to have premium success??? Wouldnt that mean playoff wins and a run at a SB? Maybe even get to the SB? maybe even win it all???? Why in the world would you be a fan of any team if you dont want them to not only succeed, but succeed at a premium level?????
Please go find another team to root for and stop teasing us with this 'Im done" shit. Be done already. Youre a ****ing troll, in all senses of the word.

Every time I hear that im an alex nut hugger, and that how could I follow a mediocre qb, then I hear someone say this, I laugh my ass off. Really, what could be more absurd than this?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

the last time a Tackle was taken at one, it was like 1960-whatever. Suuuuuuuure, Splatbass and RunKC. Suuuuuuuure.
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And in how many drafts was the top QB taken outside of the top 15?

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Tried to tell the same to him and his doomsayer ilk... don't bother... the hate and quitter mentality is strong with them.

Anyway, there's a cool article on Arrowheadpride about the pistol formations being implemented.. lots of excited KC fans there. GO CHIEFS !!!

To some degree, I understand the anger, cuz the burn of the past is still stinging. What I don't understand is rooting for us to fail miserably, and not having "premium" success just because you don't like Alex Smith. If his QB play gets the team "premium" success, then whats the ****ing problem??? Isnt that what we are all rooting for?? "Premium" success??? His "fandom" blows my mind. He keeps threatening to jump ship. Jump already FFS!

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

To some degree, I understand the anger, cuz the burn of the past is still stinging. What I don't understand is rooting for us to fail miserably, and not having "premium" success just because you don't like Alex Smith. If his QB play gets the team "premium" success, then whats the ****ing problem??? Isnt that what we are all rooting for?? "Premium" success??? His "fandom" blows my mind. He keeps threatening to jump ship. Jump already FFS!

The irony of it all is this. If you just limited the turnovers last year, and had more of an aggressive defense, the story is completely different.

both of those things along with the coaching upgrade, and the personnel, should set the Chiefs up nicely to do considerably better this year. I don't understand that Doom and gloom over one player. I really don't.....

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

The irony of it all is this. If you just limited the turnovers last year, and had more of an aggressive defense, the story is completely different.

both of those things along with the coaching upgrade, and the personnel, should set the Chiefs up nicely to do considerably better this year. I don't understand that Doom and gloom over one player. I really don't.....

Im certainly not in the doom and gloom crowd. Im a wait and see what the new regime, players and thought processes bring. I dont understand not wanting your team to win big..I really dont.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You dont want our QB to have premium success??? Wouldnt that mean playoff wins and a run at a SB? Maybe even get to the SB? maybe even win it all???? Why in the world would you be a fan of any team if you dont want them to not only succeed, but succeed at a premium level?????
Please go find another team to root for and stop teasing us with this 'Im done" shit. Be done already. Youre a ****ing troll, in all senses of the word.

What a complete and utter joke.

Translation: if the Chiefs aren't going to build the team with the players I want, I want them to fail.

If Alex Smith does do well here, SDW doesn't deserve to enjoy one second of it.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

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Alex Smith despite his 1/13 on third downs, was not the reason the 49ers lost that game. B]

Well that soitenly didn't help them any

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Messier

How much better of a prospect is Kalil? Even if he's a lot better, what about Reiff? In a great draft year he went 23rd. Fisher and Joeckel are better prospects. In a good draft they'd be top ten picks, no later than 15.

Both Lewan and Matthews have been favorably compared to Joeckel and Fisher, with both being mentioned as potential "top tackles" had they stayed in this draft class.

They are mocking anywhere from 6-15 in the few 2014 mocks I have seen.

It will be interesting to see that work out as the 2013 football season goes along, but it wouldn't shock me at all to see Matthews be a better player than either Fisher or Joeckel. In fact, I'd predict that.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You dont want our QB to have premium success??? Wouldnt that mean playoff wins and a run at a SB? Maybe even get to the SB? maybe even win it all???? Why in the world would you be a fan of any team if you dont want them to not only succeed, but succeed at a premium level?????
Please go find another team to root for and stop teasing us with this 'Im done" shit. Be done already. Youre a ****ing troll, in all senses of the word.

We would all love Alex Smith to turn into Drew Brees. He's just being realistic.

If Alice is going to play like a top 10 QB than I would hope he falls flat on his ass Cassell style and fast so we can get started on finding the guy that can be a top 10 QB.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You dont want our QB to have premium success??? Wouldnt that mean playoff wins and a run at a SB? Maybe even get to the SB? maybe even win it all???? Why in the world would you be a fan of any team if you dont want them to not only succeed, but succeed at a premium level?????
Please go find another team to root for and stop teasing us with this 'Im done" shit. Be done already. Youre a ****ing troll, in all senses of the word.

Are you dense? I'm not making the case for Axl as a stop-gap anymore. It's been laid out eleventy billion times already. Oh, and **** off. Thx!
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What a complete and utter joke.

Translation: if the Chiefs aren't going to build the team with the players I want, I want them to fail.

If Alex Smith does do well here, SDW doesn't deserve to enjoy one second of it.

Translation: I want a legitimate QB prospect so we can actually have a chance at winning something other than a "good boy" award, but if we don't, I'll just wear my red on Sunday and Herp-Derp-Derp along with the mediocrity anyway! Herp-Derp!
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