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And when it finally happens, and they finally find a franchise QB despite themselves, all the fans who blindly follow along cheering every move they make will shout "see! we told you it would work!" utterly disregarding the 3247 times before that it didn't. Maybe that time will be Alex Smith. Maybe it will be Tyler Bray. Maybe it will be somebody 27 years from now. Who knows. What I know is that there aren't really right ways and wrong ways so much as there are easy ways and hard ways. And this franchise and by extension much of its fanbase seems pathological about making it as difficult for themselves as humanly possible. Who cares that the league is about passing now, who cares that time-after-time and year-after-year quarterbacks are making a bigger difference, let's keep beating that free agent backup game manager drum. Let's get as big an offensive line as we can and build around running game and (castrated) defense. It will work! Eventually! |
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It was a bad year to have the #1 pick. Worse one in decades. That was not an "excuse". It was a fact.
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And I'm saying that was extremely convenient for them. They were very fortunate things went that way, because they weren't forced to do something they don't ever want to do.
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Yes, I'm sure this FO is happy they didn't have to make the decision to draft Andrew Luck. C'mon now.
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05-01-2013, 07:26 PM | #5 | |
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Of course I was using hyperbole in my earlier post. Because of course they wish there'd been an Andrew Luck in the draft. They'd have been able to trade the pick that way. |
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I get so ****ing tired of hearing this bullshit. Dorsey and Reid have had one ****ing draft, and there were no ****ing quarterbacks that were good enough to take with the overall #1 pick. Get over it. You simply cannot blame Reid and Dorsey for 30 years of Chiefs failures. They weren't here. If you insist that Reid and Dorsey will NEVER draft a high quarterback, you're talking out of your ass. YOU DON'T KNOW. Quote:
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but no QB in this draft was good enough for the 2-14 Chiefs? at least this fanbase gets what they deserve...nothing
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So you think a coach who drafted Donovan McNabb 2nd overall and a guy like Dorsey who comes from a franchise that invested a first round pick in Aaron Rodgers is going to pass on drafting someone like Andrew Luck if he was there? I just really can't get behind that rationale. It's absurd frankly. The failures of 2 previous GMs (one of which who said he never wanted to draft a QB and would always go with the veteran, and another who thought he could catch lighting in a bottle twice with low round QBs) are being lumped in with guys who have drafted QBs high and had success doing it. To say they'd want an Andrew Luck here just to trade the pick is complete hyperbole. Andy Reid/Dorsey have been Chiefs for 4 months. The trade for Alex Smith was more of a reflection on what they thought about this QB class more than anything. If they were all in on him, they'd have given him an extension much like Pioli did without merit.
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And this is not in any way, shape or form about Geno Smith. I never expected the Chiefs to draft him, and I was never upset that they didn't, nor do I care that the guy fell. He's just another name as far as this conversation goes. It's not about him. It's about Alex Smith, and how I believe the present and future of this team at quarterback is being built, and most likely will continue to be built. HE was their draft pick at quarterback. Dorsey has said as much (literally, at the draft party during the first round). And I don't believe that anything would have changed that, including the presence of Andrew Luck, or RG3, or Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan, or any other player you care to name. Because I don't believe that this franchise is willing, philosophically-speaking, to go that route. Because while I think they might, in ensuing years, pull the trigger on mid- to low-round quarterbacks as developmental prospects, I believe that they want a veteran as a starter, and that precludes the selection of anyone at the position on day 1 and likely even day 2. Just my opinion. Don't think you're stupid if you disagree, and you might be right. I certainly don't work at Arrowhead, so I'm just making a guess. |
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Maybe history will prove it so, but at this point it's safe to say the jury is out. This wasn't like 2009 where Pioli had his head up his rear while other teams made moves to get QBs in that class. It's fairly clear at this point that this entire QB class was very poorly rated not just by the Chiefs, but every team. And there's no doubt someone from this class will probably have success. But it wasn't like the Chiefs were sitting over in la-la land like they usually are. What will happen is the exact opposite of what you claimed, someone will be good and everybody will rip the Chiefs for not taking them. |
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