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Old 09-19-2017, 11:08 AM   #1
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Words and Deeds. My Dad always said words sound pretty and impressive but its the deeds that matter. Documentarians and Historians are never short of the pretty words but seem to be long in stretching and bending the deeds to fit their purpose. Ken Burns is a master at this.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:39 PM   #2
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Words and Deeds. My Dad always said words sound pretty and impressive but its the deeds that matter. Documentarians and Historians are never short of the pretty words but seem to be long in stretching and bending the deeds to fit their purpose. Ken Burns is a master at this.
You think Ken is anti-american biased? Or anti-American military?
I'm not challenging you, I'm just curious.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:39 PM   #3
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You think Ken is anti-american biased? Or anti-American military?
I'm not challenging you, I'm just curious.
Not the person you asked, but I think Ken would proudly admit to being a New Deal socialist and beyond nonracist to social justice antiracist [ie, equality of outcome advocate].

And he thinks that the parts of American history that aren't actively pursuing/progressing in those areas are universally 'dark times'
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:48 PM   #4
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Watching Hal Moores interview after Ia Drang for the second time tonight doesnt get any easier... the 7th Cav outnumbered 7-1, and still he brought the majority of them through it

This short poem from an NVA is blunt and haunting as well

'The crab lies still on the chopping block, never knowing when the knife will fall'
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:42 AM   #5
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Watching Hal Moores interview after Ia Drang for the second time tonight doesnt get any easier... the 7th Cav outnumbered 7-1, and still he brought the majority of them through it

This short poem from an NVA is blunt and haunting as well

'The crab lies still on the chopping block, never knowing when the knife will fall'

In Congressional testimony supporting Truman's firing of MacArthur, General Omar Bradley, then the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, expressly (and famously) stated that MacArthur's inclination to go to war with China was "the wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and with the wrong enemy".

It is completely lamentable that our leaders barely a generation later were incapable of applying that same logic. South Vietnam was NOT South Korea, and that entire war was massively misguided. The absolute and unquestionable proof of that can be found in just looking at Vietnam now. While hardly a paragon of democracy or human rights, it is certainly no threat to us, nor has it ever been. We went to war and, sadly, many lost their lives or were wounded for nothing.
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