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Rams Fan · 07-31-2013, 05:36 PM

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Commissioner Bud Selig is prepared to levy a lifetime suspension on New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, while suspending about eight others before the weekend, two people with knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports.

The people were unauthorized to speak publicly because no announcement is expected until Thursday or Friday.

Rodriguez, according to his attorney, David Cornwell, will appeal any suspension, regardless of the severity. The other players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing, according to one of the people.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nesis/2606319/

Brock · 07-31-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Do his stats before he was obviously using say he deserves to be in the HOF? I would say no.

I don't give a shit who he lied to. He lied and that alone should keep him out of the hall.

I don't care about baseball players lying.

**Saul Good** · 07-31-2013, 07:16 PM

Should we ban everyone who ever threw a spitball? Every catcher who ever framed a pitch? Everyone who scuffed/pine tarred a ball? Everyone who ever stole a sign? Everyone who trapped a ball and pretended they caught it? Read some books about the early days of MLB. People skipped bases when umps weren't watching. A catcher snuck a mother****ing peeled potato onto the field, threw it into left field when a runner stle third, and then tagged him out with the actual ball when he ran home. Many of those players are in the HOF. Who gives a **** if people take vitamins, supplements, or steroids?

This is stupid. Baseball is a game. The objective is to throw the ball, hit the ball, and catch the ball. What people do to their own bodies in order to make them better at it shouldn't make a bit of difference.

MMXcalibur · 07-31-2013, 07:17 PM

I'm confused, was A-Rod banned before for steroids?
If not, this seems rather steep for a "first time offense".

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-31-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Should we ban everyone who ever threw a spitball? Every catcher who ever framed a pitch? Everyone who scuffed/pine tarred a ball? Everyone who ever stole a sign? Everyone who trapped a ball and pretended they caught it? Read some books about the early days of MLB. People skipped bases when umps weren't watching. A catcher snuck a mother****ing peeled potato onto the field, threw it into left field when a runner stle third, and then tagged him out with the actual ball when he ran home. Many of those players are in the HOF. Who gives a **** if people take vitamins, supplements, or steroids?

This is stupid. Baseball is a game. The objective is to throw the ball, hit the ball, and catch the ball. What people do to their own bodies in order to make them better at it shouldn't make a bit of difference.

I agree with your end result, but you are conflating gamesmanship with cheating, and there is a difference.

**Saul Good** · 07-31-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I agree with your end result, but you are conflating gamesmanship with cheating, and there is a difference.

A difference without distinction, IMO.

Mr. Laz · 07-31-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

The cynic in me is thinking its the Yankmees that are pushing his lifetime ban behind the scenes, just so they can get out from under his bloated, ridiculous contract.

The only thing I'd like about him beating the rap is continuing to **** them over.

yup

MLB wouldn't be trying nearly as hard to ban a player if it wasn't NY that was looking to get 60 million back

Mr. Laz · 07-31-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Should we ban everyone who ever threw a spitball? Every catcher who ever framed a pitch? Everyone who scuffed/pine tarred a ball? Everyone who ever stole a sign? Everyone who trapped a ball and pretended they caught it? Read some books about the early days of MLB. People skipped bases when umps weren't watching. A catcher snuck a mother****ing peeled potato onto the field, threw it into left field when a runner stle third, and then tagged him out with the actual ball when he ran home. Many of those players are in the HOF. Who gives a **** if people take vitamins, supplements, or steroids?

This is stupid. Baseball is a game. The objective is to throw the ball, hit the ball, and catch the ball. What people do to their own bodies in order to make them better at it shouldn't make a bit of difference.

dumb post is dumb

**Saul Good** · 07-31-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

A difference without distinction, IMO.

Actually, baiting umpires into impacting the outcome of games by blowing calls is worse than simply trying to make yourself more capable of hitting the ball out of the park because you chose this (illegal) supplement instead of that (legal) supplement.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-31-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

A difference without distinction, IMO.

Pretty big distinction between stealing signs and framing pitches and taking substances to improve your performance that are explicitly banned in a collectively bargained agreement. The first two are no prohibited; the third is.

**Saul Good** · 07-31-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

dumb post is dumb

Please explain why cheating to make yourself better at a game (steroids) is worse than cheating by compromising the integrity of the game (doctoring equipment).

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-31-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Actually, baiting umpires into impacting the outcome of games by blowing calls is worse than simply trying to make yourself more capable of hitting the ball out of the park because you chose this (illegal) supplement instead of that (legal) supplement.

Saul Good, ladies and gentleman. Show me a rule that bans A) and not B).

Mr. Laz · 07-31-2013, 07:28 PM

why have any rules at all ... they just get in the way of the game.

i would like to see someone try to steal 2nd after i give Salvy a sniper's rifle.

Eleazar · 07-31-2013, 07:28 PM

I picture the people who make the "baseball is better with steroids" argument as arena football league season ticket holders. More scoring makes any sport better, right?

**Saul Good** · 07-31-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Pretty big distinction between stealing signs and framing pitches and taking substances to improve your performance that are explicitly banned in a collectively bargained agreement. The first two are no prohibited; the third is.

I'll grant you those two...that was more of a slippery slope argument. Of course, I'm not certain that steroid use was prohibited back when Mac and Bonds were doing it...

tk13 · 07-31-2013, 07:30 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...ecords/278224/

This was an interesting article from today. Kind of an obvious question that gets glossed over... but it questions why none of the other sports leagues are getting involved in this issue.

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MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $2435086	I'm confused, was A-Rod banned before for steroids? If not, this seems rather steep for a "first time offense".
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07-31-2013, 07:30 PM	#60
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1972500	http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...ecords/278224/ This was an interesting article from today. Kind of an obvious question that gets glossed over... but it questions why none of the other sports leagues are getting involved in this issue.
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