Those that wanted DV gone - Page 3

Lbedrock1 · 01-01-2006, 04:46 PM

got your wish, but if we are losing next year remember you don't have a right to complain. Most coaches leave after losing seasons and we were 10-6 which is a improvement over last year. I believe unless Al Saunders is the next HC we will step back before we step forward depending on if the next HC keeps Gun and one of our offensive coaches to be the OC.

**Bwana** · 01-01-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Nonsense. Who else would step and and take the time to make a new header for the site (which wasnt quite finished so they put it up anyway) without so much as a penny for his troubles?

Hmmm, valid point, as you were.

RedDread · 01-01-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

if you don't know no one can tell you!

I know why DV should leave and I'll tell you.

DV had Talented football teams every year from '02 to '05 here. Many other coaches have done MORE with LESS.

Frazod · 01-01-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDread

I know why DV should leave and I'll tell you.

DV had Talented football teams every year from '02 to '05 here. Many other coaches have done MORE with LESS.

DING DING DING We have a winner

4th and Long · 01-01-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Hmmm, valid point, as you were.

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I'm returning the salute but I'm sure no one here wants to see a picture of that.

Frankie · 01-01-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lbedrock1

got your wish, but if we are losing next year remember you don't have a right to complain. Most coaches leave after losing seasons and we were 10-6 which is a improvement over last year. I believe unless Al Saunders is the next HC we will step back before we step forward depending on if the next HC keeps Gun and one of our offensive coaches to be the OC.

I can't believe the "discard" mentality here. These are probably the same fans who wanted to piss away Dante Hall, Kawika Mitchell, Larry Johnson, and Lawrence Tynes in the most rabid way. Now they are biting the hand of the most logical HC candidate for us.

Valiant · 01-01-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by r8er_h8er

Why not, those that wanted him gone don't seem to realize what they had in a coach. If you fall into that same category I feel sorry for you as well.

Is that a category that never improved a defense his four years here???
Is that a category that would cuddle his D players like hicks for being stars???

The only category DV exceled at was being emotional, putting a team out there that averaged 9 wins a year got us jack...

01-01-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Yeah and that got us how many playoff appearances and playoff wins???

Just because you are satisfied with average, does not mean everybody else is...

I am in no way satisfied with average. I do realize that no matter how much whining goes on that we won't have an impact. All we are doing is venting our spleen.

The problem is that no matter who is brought in there is going to be a new system, regardless of keeping the "offensive scheme". It will be implemented differently and may not work as it has under DV and AS.

I hope you are happy that DV is gone, it may be the only happy feeling you have during the rebuilding years ahead.

RedDread · 01-01-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I can't believe the "discard" mentality here. These are probably the same fans who wanted to piss away Dante Hall, Kawika Mitchell, Larry Johnson, and Lawrence Tynes in the most rabid way. Now they are biting the hand of the most logical HC candidate for us.

Saunders would probably be a good choice but there's two stigmas working against him

1) The "Old Guard" factor: People see him as just a continuation of the DV and all the talent he squandered

2) The Gunther factor: For some reason we believe that because our former DC turned HC sucked that our current OC will as well. It's a bullshit argument.

I would love to see Saunders take the job, that way we wouldn't lose nearly as many players to retirement (IMHO) and there wouldn't be as big a learning curve when a new HC is brought in.

**the Talking Can** · 01-01-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by r8er_h8er

I am in no way satisfied with average. I do realize that no matter how much whining goes on that we won't have an impact. All we are doing is venting our spleen.

The problem is that no matter who is brought in there is going to be a new system, regardless of keeping the "offensive scheme". It will be implemented differently and may not work as it has under DV and AS.

I hope you are happy that DV is gone, it may be the only happy feeling you have during the rebuilding years ahead.

are you reeruned?

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-01-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

if you don't know no one can tell you!

your and ideot

ck_IN · 01-01-2006, 05:29 PM

DV has been a good coach for the Chiefs. He developed some players to be great players and has made his share of mistakes.

DV in 5 years had a winning percentage of ~.530. He had some of the best offenses but did about the least with them. He got us to the playoffs exactly once. We won the west exactly once. He had no playoff wins.

As for developing anyone, show me a single player he drafted that he developed into anything. LJ would've been great regardless and DV didn't use him until he absolutely had to.

DV's era is marked by getting the least results with the most talent and leaving behind him the 2nd oldest team in the league. If this team does dropoff it wouldn't surprise me due to the aging vets DV loved retiring or breaking down.

In the end DV brought us nothing but nice stats and a very old team that the next guy will have to rebuild.

Valiant · 01-01-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by r8er_h8er

I am in no way satisfied with average. I do realize that no matter how much whining goes on that we won't have an impact. All we are doing is venting our spleen.

The problem is that no matter who is brought in there is going to be a new system, regardless of keeping the "offensive scheme". It will be implemented differently and may not work as it has under DV and AS.

I hope you are happy that DV is gone, it may be the only happy feeling you have during the rebuilding years ahead.

Yes because the fans are the one that made DV medicore and want to retire.. The fans made DV keep Robinson so long and not get a player upgrade when we went 13-3 and then sucked the next year.. The fans are the ones that caused all this..

htismaqe · 01-01-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by r8er_h8er

The problem is that no matter who is brought in there is going to be a new system, regardless of keeping the "offensive scheme". It will be implemented differently and may not work as it has under DV and AS.

Yeah, it may work BETTER.

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Originally Posted by r8er_h8er

I hope you are happy that DV is gone, it may be the only happy feeling you have during the rebuilding years ahead.

Log off immediately. You're wasting time here. With your ability to see the future in such a definitive manner, you could make a ton of money.

01-01-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, it may work BETTER.

Log off immediately. You're wasting time here. With your ability to see the future in such a definitive manner, you could make a ton of money.

Better? I'll believe that when I see it.

I have a ton of money. Why log off and let you guys get away with sacrilege?

**Bwana** · 01-01-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by r8er_h8er

I hope you are happy that DV is gone, it may be the only happy feeling you have during the rebuilding years ahead.

01-01-2006, 04:46 PM
Lbedrock1 Iron Giant Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Conyers, Ga Casino cash: $10005364	Those that wanted DV gone got your wish, but if we are losing next year remember you don't have a right to complain. Most coaches leave after losing seasons and we were 10-6 which is a improvement over last year. I believe unless Al Saunders is the next HC we will step back before we step forward depending on if the next HC keeps Gun and one of our offensive coaches to be the OC.
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01-01-2006, 05:29 PM	#41
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	DV has been a good coach for the Chiefs. He developed some players to be great players and has made his share of mistakes. DV in 5 years had a winning percentage of ~.530. He had some of the best offenses but did about the least with them. He got us to the playoffs exactly once. We won the west exactly once. He had no playoff wins. As for developing anyone, show me a single player he drafted that he developed into anything. LJ would've been great regardless and DV didn't use him until he absolutely had to. DV's era is marked by getting the least results with the most talent and leaving behind him the 2nd oldest team in the league. If this team does dropoff it wouldn't surprise me due to the aging vets DV loved retiring or breaking down. In the end DV brought us nothing but nice stats and a very old team that the next guy will have to rebuild. __________________ As sweet as Tupelo Honey
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