KU USA Today Poll March 2nd - Page 3

ArrowheadHawk · 03-02-2009, 11:57 AM

March 2, 2009

Rank School Record Points Previous
1. Connecticut (27) 27-2 769 2
2. North Carolina 25-3 711 5
3. Memphis (4) 26-3 698 4
4. Pittsburgh 26-3 667 1
5. Oklahoma 26-3 653 3
6. Louisville 23-5 630 6
7. Duke 24-5 597 7
8. Michigan State 23-5 557 9
9. Kansas 24-5 509 15
10. Wake Forest 22-5 480 14
11. LSU 25-4 420 18
12. Missouri 24-5 377 8
13. Washington 22-7 346 21
14. Gonzaga 23-5 339 17
15. Marquette 23-6 327 10
16. Villanova 23-6 324 12
17. UCLA 22-7 295 19
18. Xavier 23-5 260 22
19. Clemson 22-6 219 13
20. Purdue 22-7 211 16
21. Arizona State 21-7 189 11
22. Butler 25-4 168 23
23. Illinois 23-7 107 20
24. Florida State 22-7 67 25
25. Syracuse 21-8 37 NR

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

Do you really think this MU team is even close to this KU team?

I hope there is a rematch in the Big 12 tournament. If they play again, on any court, on any day, KU will win. Write it down, take a picture, I don't give a fuk.

I was never so confident in a KU victory as I was going into the MU game yesterday.

Funny, you guys split the series with MU, beat a Griffenless OU and all the sudden you think you are the best team around. You can trash talk all you want, the fact is you lost to MU. If you played at Columbia again, you would probably lose again.

And golly gee, you were confident KU would beat MU at AFH along with everyone else. You really went out on a limb there.

|Zach| · 03-02-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

Do you really think this MU team is even close to this KU team?

I hope there is a rematch in the Big 12 tournament. If they play again, on any court, on any day, KU will win. Write it down, take a picture, I don't give a fuk.

I was never so confident in a KU victory as I was going into the MU game yesterday.

This post would make more sense if they swept them.

No worries...you said KU win was the ONLY reason KU was ranked high...they split the series and you are so confused why they didn't drop more.

Seems everyone else knows that what situation is but you.

Pants · 03-02-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Funny, you guys split the series with MU, beat a Griffenless OU and all the sudden you think you are the best team around. You can trash talk all you want, the fact is you lost to MU. If you played at Columbia again, you would probably lose again.

And golly gee, you were confident KU would beat MU at AFH along with everyone else. You really went out on a limb there.

Hey, pete, how come you never take the scores into account? The fashion that your team beat KU is a little different from what happened on Sunday, no?

I bet if we played you at your house again, we'd win...

I'm cool with these rankings.

**Lzen** · 03-02-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Exactly. Considering that 3 of the 4 more top 50 wins they have are Tenn Siena and a Griffinless Oklahoma I would say the resumes are very similar.

Dude, are you reeruned? Siena is ranked #29 in the RPI. Yeah, Oklahoma was without Griffin. Still a very, very tough team. Especially at their place. Tennesse is another very good team.

And let's not for get that MU had 50% more of their wins against teams that were over 200 RPI.

Yeah, that's similar.

**luv** · 03-02-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog

AP Top 25

1. Connecticut (67) 27-2 1,792
2. North Carolina (3) 25-3 1,678
3. Pittsburgh (1) 26-3 1,612
4. Oklahoma 26-3 1,576
5. Memphis (1) 26-3 1,543
6. Louisville 23-5 1,462
7. Duke 24-5 1,340
8. Michigan State 23-5 1,302
9. Kansas 24-5 1,190
10. Wake Forest 22-5 1,158
11. Villanova 23-6 913
12. LSU 25-4 894
13. Marquette 23-6 860
14. Gonzaga 23-5 837
15. Missouri 24-5 795
16. Washington 22-7 704
17. Xavier 23-5 629
18. Clemson 22-6 564
19. Purdue 22-7 545
20. UCLA 22-7 497
21. Arizona State 21-7 347
22. Butler 25-4 302
23. Illinois 23-7 287
24. Florida State 22-7 272
25. Syracuse 21-8 99
Others Receiving Votes
Creighton 52, Brigham Young 41, Utah 22, Saint Mary's 13, Dayton 11, West Virginia 10, Davidson 9, Texas 9, California 8, South Carolina 7, Providence 7, Washington State 4, Arizona 3, Oklahoma State 2, Boston College 1, Rhode Island 1, American University 1, Utah State 1.

That looks good to me.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Hey, pete, how come you never take the scores into account? The fashion that your team beat KU is a little different from what happened on Sunday, no?

I bet if we played you at your house again, we'd win...

I'm cool with these rankings.

Because teams play differently on different days. Why didn't you blow out MU the first game then? MU got off to the same shaky start at MU only they came back and outscored KU in the 2nd half. KU made adjustments and didn't turn the ball over at KU and MU shot like shit. The fact remains they split. I don't see much difference between losing by 25 and having someone comeback on you 14+ points down in 1 half. That in and of itself says a lot about MU. And KU for that matter.

Get over it. We each won at home. And I think the rankings are fair as well.

BTW, if you played at MU again I think you would lose again. But we will never know.

**Lzen** · 03-02-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

So you really consider a 10 loss SEC team to be a quality victory this year? I was saying MU and KU have the same amount of true quality wins. KU has MU and MU has KU. If you want you could maybe throw in Tex for MU and OU for KU but both teams have not played an extremely tough schedule. MU has a couple losses to bubble teams not playing so well late and KU has a loss against a team out of the tournament in Oct. You guys can toot your own horn as much as you like but both teams have the same looking resumes this year.

Good Lord, you are, in fact, reeruned. KU's SOS (that's strength of schedule) is #14 according to the RPI. MU's is #54.

Pants · 03-02-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Because teams play differently on different days. Why didn't you blow out MU the first game then? MU got off to the same shaky start at MU only they came back and outscored KU in the 2nd half. KU made adjustments and didn't turn the ball over at KU and MU shot like shit. The fact remains they split. I don't see much difference between losing by 25 and having someone comeback on you 14+ points down in 1 half. That in and of itself says a lot about MU. And KU for that matter.

Get over it. We each won at home. And I think the rankings are fair as well.

BTW, if you played at MU again I think you would lose again. But we will never know.

Just like KU had 27 turnovers for a reason, MU shot a horrendous % for a reason as well. I mean, MU just must be really unlucky whenever they play KU, right? And before you mention the 2nd half... I already have an answer - KU relaxed and let off a bit and that was enough for MU to come back and barely win that one at home.

I think we both know that KU is by far the superior team at this point.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Just like KU had 27 turnovers for a reason, MU shot a horrendous % for a reason as well. I mean, MU just must be really unlucky whenever they play KU, right? And before you mention the 2nd half... I already have an answer - KU relaxed and let off a bit and that was enough for MU to come back and barely win that one at home.

I think we both know that KU is by far the superior team at this point.

Right....make some excuses as to why you lost. That is the bullshit I hate from KU fans. You are so full of shit. MU took it to KU that 2nd half. Tell yourself whatever you need to do deal with that loss. But that is the fact.

|Zach| · 03-02-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Just like KU had 27 turnovers for a reason, MU shot a horrendous % for a reason as well. I mean, MU just must be really unlucky whenever they play KU, right? And before you mention the 2nd half... I already have an answer - KU relaxed and let off a bit and that was enough for MU to come back and barely win that one at home.

I think we both know that KU is by far the superior team at this point.

Missouri didn't exactly play lights out the first game. They did enough to win. This could be a mischaracterization of what you are saying...sorry if so...but the first game neither team played that well...the game was disjointed and KU turned the ball over a lot and MU found a way to win. It isn't like KU played horrible and Missouri brought the games of their lives to get that W.

|Zach| · 03-02-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

MU just must be really unlucky whenever they play KU, right?

Not really, they won one of the games.

**Bearcat** · 03-02-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

So you really consider a 10 loss SEC team to be a quality victory this year? I was saying MU and KU have the same amount of true quality wins. KU has MU and MU has KU. If you want you could maybe throw in Tex for MU and OU for KU but both teams have not played an extremely tough schedule. MU has a couple losses to bubble teams not playing so well late and KU has a loss against a team out of the tournament in Oct. You guys can toot your own horn as much as you like but both teams have the same looking resumes this year.

It looks different to me... You can rationalize away Kansas wins and talk about the one loss to the 100+, but the numbers say Kansas has played 5 more games against the top 50 than Missouri, and they've won 4 of them. Kansas is 13-4 against the top 75 and Missouri is 8-5.

We can argue all day about who would win a 7 game series on a neutral court in Switzerland, but the resumes aren't the same. "Yeah, but..." isn't going to push Kansas down or Missouri up to the same line in the tournament (and FWIW, in this week's Bracketology, Kansas is on the 2 line and Missouri is on the 4 line.... the resumes aren't the same).



RPI 1-25      26-50     51-75  76-100     101-200     201+ 

     4-3       4-1      5-0      0-0         5-1       6-0



RPI 1-25      26-50     51-75  76-100     101-200     201+ 

     1-3       3-0      4-2      0-0         6-0        9-0

Pants · 03-02-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Right....make some excuses as to why you lost. That is the bullshit I hate from KU fans. You are so full of shit. MU took it to KU that 2nd half. Tell yourself whatever you need to do deal with that loss. But that is the fact.

Please point out to me the excuse that I made. I don't see one.

Pants · 03-02-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Not really, they won one of the games.

Zach, I'm talking to pete and his 14 point "spot" theory. That silly nincompoop is trying to have it both ways, so I'm just trying to show him the absurdity of his argument.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Please point out to me the excuse that I made. I don't see one.

The fact you say KU let up and allowed MU to come back. That is an excuse. I know, in your mind it isn't somehow but that is the fact.

03-02-2009, 11:57 AM
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