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Old 03-23-2013, 05:15 PM   #1
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So you are saying its just as likely that Alex goes 1,900 yards 17 TDs and 22 INTs at 54%?
No, I am saying Andy Reid believes he can make Alex Smith more productive than he has been previously, and Reid has SOME history in doing that with players. That's all I am saying. The chance of Alex Smith throwing for 4000+ yards with limited interceptions is possible, and Reid thinks he can get that. Main argument is that Reid thinks he can get that.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #2
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The chance of Alex Smith throwing for 4000+ yards with limited interceptions is possible
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:20 PM   #3
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No, I am saying Andy Reid believes he can make Alex Smith more productive than he has been previously, and Reid has SOME history in doing that with players. That's all I am saying. The chance of Alex Smith throwing for 4000+ yards with limited interceptions is possible, and Reid thinks he can get that. Main argument is that Reid thinks he can get that.
Link for his doubling production of any QB?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:15 PM   #4
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Why will Alex Smith be better in KC than he's ever been in his career? I'm ready for a convincing argument in response to this question.

And I don't want to read, "Because of Andy Reid."
Well Clark definitely thinks Andy is the sh** otherwise Reid probably doesn't take the job as keg said.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:07 PM   #5
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I think we have a better chance at 5-11 that the other way around.

I suspect we will be better and I actually think there is a better chance of going 11-5 if Smith does get hurt. Stanzi or Daniels might pull something out of their rectums. We know the verdict on Smith.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:11 PM   #6
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I think we have a better chance at 5-11 that the other way around.

I suspect we will be better and I actually think there is a better chance of going 11-5 if Smith does get hurt. Stanzi or Daniels might pull something out of their rectums. We know the verdict on Smith.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:12 PM   #7
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I think we have a better chance at 5-11 that the other way around.

I suspect we will be better and I actually think there is a better chance of going 11-5 if Smith does get hurt. Stanzi or Daniels might pull something out of their rectums. We know the verdict on Smith.
I think we will win 7 or 8 no matter who the QB is. I think there is a chance we will win 10 or 11 games with Alex Smith (only because I don't think we were as bad as the 2-14 record indicates, competent coaching last year and we would have had a better record).

But the truth is that none of us know what will happen. Declaring Alex Smith a failure at this point is ridiculous.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:18 PM   #8
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I think we will win 7 or 8 no matter who the QB is. I think there is a chance we will win 10 or 11 games with Alex Smith (only because I don't think we were as bad as the 2-14 record indicates, competent coaching last year and we would have had a better record).

But the truth is that none of us know what will happen. Declaring Alex Smith a failure at this point is ridiculous.
I think winning 10-11 games with dingleberry is ludicrous. Declaring Alex Smith to be anything more than what he is always been to this point is ridiculous.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:21 PM   #9
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I think winning 10-11 games with dingleberry is ludicrous. Declaring Alex Smith to be anything more than what he is always been to this point is ridiculous.
Cassel won 10, and with a far worse HC. Why not?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:29 PM   #10
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Cassel won 10, and with a far worse HC. Why not?
I think 2010 Cassel > Alex Smith for one...
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:22 PM   #11
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I think we will win 7 or 8 no matter who the QB is. I think there is a chance we will win 10 or 11 games with Alex Smith (only because I don't think we were as bad as the 2-14 record indicates, competent coaching last year and we would have had a better record).

But the truth is that none of us know what will happen. Declaring Alex Smith a failure at this point is ridiculous.
Who's declaring Alex Smith a failure?

I also think we'll win 7 or 8 games no matter who the QB is.

I further think there's a chance we win 10 or 11 games, again regardless of who the QB is.

My problem is not with Alex Smith. My problem is with trading multiple second round picks for Alex Smith. I'm sure he'll do fine. But I don't think he'll give us a whole lot we couldn't have gotten elsewhere for less of a price, and I don't think he'll give us a whole lot more over the long haul than we could have gotten out of not just Geno Smith but out of several of the other QBs in this (or basically any other) draft class.

That's where my issue lies. I'm sure we can win 6-12 games a year with Alex Smith at quarterback. I'm sure we can compete in playoff games with Alex Smith. I'm also sure we can do all of that with pretty much any quarterback with this coaching staff and this roster. Well, aside from Matt Cassel, who seemed to be on a personal mission to turn the ball over in 2012.

If Alex Smith was a free agent, I might not have any issue at all. But we gave up a lot, and I expect the returns to be limited. Not bad. Not failure. Just limited. The trade didn't and doesn't make sense to me. Saying that doesn't mean I think the next four years will be a dumpster fire.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:26 PM   #12
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Who's declaring Alex Smith a failure?
Just read the last couple of pages of this forum. Hell, Clayton drones on and on about it all the time, so do a bunch of others.
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Just read the last couple of pages of this forum. Hell, Clayton drones on and on about it all the time, so do a bunch of others.
That's just clayton. Who pays attention to him?
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If we're no no longer allowed to use mediocre, then I hereby nominate "fairish", "humdrum", "middling", "no great shakes", "pedestrian", "second-rate" and "unexceptional" for average mediocre replacement and "crappy", "junky", "ratty", "raunchy", "rinky-dink", "rubbishy", "shoddy", "small-time", "tatty", "tawdry", "trashy" and "two-bit" for inferior mediocre replacement.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:14 PM   #15
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If we're no no longer allowed to use mediocre, then I hereby nominate "fairish", "humdrum", "middling", "no great shakes", "pedestrian", "second-rate" and "unexceptional" for average mediocre replacement and "crappy", "junky", "ratty", "raunchy", "rinky-dink", "rubbishy", "shoddy", "small-time", "tatty", "tawdry", "trashy" and "two-bit" for inferior mediocre replacement.
I didn't say you aren't allowed to, just that is would be nice. It seems that a lot of people here just parrot each other so every post from the people with low expectations starts looking exactly the same.
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